MTGO Tournament - Build Your Own Standard #1 (Ended) - Demonic Tutor2024-03-29T15:54:27Zhttp://demonictutor.ning.com/forum/topics/mtgo-competition?id=3440403%3ATopic%3A57786&feed=yes&xn_auth=noOK I'm officially declaring t…tag:demonictutor.ning.com,2012-11-30:3440403:Comment:582882012-11-30T12:46:03.671ZThomas David Bakerhttp://demonictutor.ning.com/profile/ThomasDavidBaker
<p>OK I'm officially declaring this competition closed.</p>
<p>Simon wins, Josh is second. Please meet up with me online to get your fabulous prizes.</p>
<p>I've added archetypes to the table and linked the decklists: <a href="http://magic.bluebones.net/byos/1/decklists.txt" target="_blank">http://magic.bluebones.net/byos/1/decklists.txt</a></p>
<p>Thanks for playing everyone! I'll announce the next DTBYOS on Monday!</p>
<p>OK I'm officially declaring this competition closed.</p>
<p>Simon wins, Josh is second. Please meet up with me online to get your fabulous prizes.</p>
<p>I've added archetypes to the table and linked the decklists: <a href="http://magic.bluebones.net/byos/1/decklists.txt" target="_blank">http://magic.bluebones.net/byos/1/decklists.txt</a></p>
<p>Thanks for playing everyone! I'll announce the next DTBYOS on Monday!</p> i looked at some kind of Pata…tag:demonictutor.ning.com,2012-11-29:3440403:Comment:580532012-11-29T16:59:21.085ZPhilip Dickinsonhttp://demonictutor.ning.com/profile/PhilipDickinson
<p>i looked at some kind of Patagia Viper + Opposition + Static Orb deck as well but for some reason thought my Oversoul + Worship plan was going to be good (turns out its actually completely terrible when the most ubiquitous removal spell played is Journey to Nowhere)</p>
<p>i looked at some kind of Patagia Viper + Opposition + Static Orb deck as well but for some reason thought my Oversoul + Worship plan was going to be good (turns out its actually completely terrible when the most ubiquitous removal spell played is Journey to Nowhere)</p> Yeah!
Baker - do you want to…tag:demonictutor.ning.com,2012-11-29:3440403:Comment:581302012-11-29T11:44:44.827ZPaul Hodgsonhttp://demonictutor.ning.com/profile/PaulHodgson
<p>Yeah!</p>
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<p>Baker - do you want to pull some sets out of the hat again?</p>
<p>Yeah!</p>
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<p>Baker - do you want to pull some sets out of the hat again?</p> So glad nobody made the full…tag:demonictutor.ning.com,2012-11-29:3440403:Comment:580492012-11-29T11:04:04.453ZKieran Symingtonhttp://demonictutor.ning.com/profile/KieranSymington
<p>So glad nobody made the full prison deck. Being locked out by an Opposition + Static Orb deck would be even more soul crushing than being beaten to death for 1 a turn by Court Hussar.</p>
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<p>Can we move on to the next one now? I guess not since a number of people could still come second if they win out - but it's been a while since we started and it would be good to get another done before I go away for Christmas.</p>
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<p>Actually, I don't see any reason we can't just run…</p>
<p>So glad nobody made the full prison deck. Being locked out by an Opposition + Static Orb deck would be even more soul crushing than being beaten to death for 1 a turn by Court Hussar.</p>
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<p>Can we move on to the next one now? I guess not since a number of people could still come second if they win out - but it's been a while since we started and it would be good to get another done before I go away for Christmas.</p>
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<p>Actually, I don't see any reason we can't just run another one concurrently - especially if the same people are going to play!</p> I tested Knacksaw Clique, did…tag:demonictutor.ning.com,2012-11-29:3440403:Comment:581292012-11-29T10:38:31.233ZPaul Hodgsonhttp://demonictutor.ning.com/profile/PaulHodgson
<p>I tested Knacksaw Clique, didn't quite work - also, Opposition is terrible vs Blastoderm and Oversoul and not quick enough to lock them down</p>
<p>I tested Knacksaw Clique, didn't quite work - also, Opposition is terrible vs Blastoderm and Oversoul and not quick enough to lock them down</p> Yeah, I had Puresight Merrow…tag:demonictutor.ning.com,2012-11-29:3440403:Comment:582872012-11-29T10:36:38.200ZSimon O'Keeffehttp://demonictutor.ning.com/profile/sokeeffe
<p>Yeah, I had Puresight Merrow in the board, but his casting cost might actually have been prohibitive. I didn't like how Silkbind required a target, plus the Merrow would help you dig for action/counters/board cards, but I agree Silkbind would be nuts vs midrange/aggro decks.</p>
<p>In fact it might be that UW Opposition is actually just better than packing in the green 1 drops, it gives you better token producers and better mana, just slightly slower.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Ben Titmarsh…</cite></p>
<p>Yeah, I had Puresight Merrow in the board, but his casting cost might actually have been prohibitive. I didn't like how Silkbind required a target, plus the Merrow would help you dig for action/counters/board cards, but I agree Silkbind would be nuts vs midrange/aggro decks.</p>
<p>In fact it might be that UW Opposition is actually just better than packing in the green 1 drops, it gives you better token producers and better mana, just slightly slower.<br/> <br/> <cite>Ben Titmarsh said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://demonictutor.ning.com/forum/topics/mtgo-competition?commentId=3440403%3AComment%3A57949&xg_source=activity#3440403Comment57949"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Well I paired Opposition with Silkbind Faerie which I thought was a pretty neat combo (incidentally this would've been insane with static orb!), but never really played an aggro/midrange matchup where it would have been at it's best.</p>
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</blockquote> Well I paired Opposition with…tag:demonictutor.ning.com,2012-11-29:3440403:Comment:579492012-11-29T10:14:29.170ZBen Titmarshhttp://demonictutor.ning.com/profile/BenTitmarsh
<p>Well I paired Opposition with Silkbind Faerie which I thought was a pretty neat combo (incidentally this would've been insane with static orb!), but never really played an aggro/midrange matchup where it would have been at it's best.</p>
<p>Well I paired Opposition with Silkbind Faerie which I thought was a pretty neat combo (incidentally this would've been insane with static orb!), but never really played an aggro/midrange matchup where it would have been at it's best.</p> I had an Opposition deck too…tag:demonictutor.ning.com,2012-11-29:3440403:Comment:580452012-11-29T10:09:33.168ZSimon O'Keeffehttp://demonictutor.ning.com/profile/sokeeffe
<p>I had an Opposition deck too that was going to be my main deck for quite a while, before I switched to UW.</p>
<p>It had a problem with counterspells, but shoehorning some Spell Pierce in the main might fix that. The real key that I didn't hear anyone else mention is the inclusion of Static Orb. That turns the deck from a good disruption deck to a brutal lock. My rough list was:</p>
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<p>4x Birds of Paradise</p>
<p>4x Llanowar Elf</p>
<p>4x Coiling Oracle</p>
<p>4x Court…</p>
<p>I had an Opposition deck too that was going to be my main deck for quite a while, before I switched to UW.</p>
<p>It had a problem with counterspells, but shoehorning some Spell Pierce in the main might fix that. The real key that I didn't hear anyone else mention is the inclusion of Static Orb. That turns the deck from a good disruption deck to a brutal lock. My rough list was:</p>
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<p>4x Birds of Paradise</p>
<p>4x Llanowar Elf</p>
<p>4x Coiling Oracle</p>
<p>4x Court Hussar</p>
<p>4x Patagia Viper</p>
<p>4x Sleight of Hand</p>
<p>4x Impulse</p>
<p>4x Opposition</p>
<p>4x Static Orb</p>
<p>2x Supply//Demand (or Presence of Gond or White Sun's Zenith)</p>
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<p>2x Simic Growth Chamber</p>
<p>2x Azorious Chancery</p>
<p>4x Adarkar Wastes</p>
<p>4x Yavimaya Coast (was this legal?)</p>
<p>9x Forest</p>
<p>1x Island</p>
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<p></p> Tried to make opposition work…tag:demonictutor.ning.com,2012-11-29:3440403:Comment:580442012-11-29T09:46:04.602ZPaul Hodgsonhttp://demonictutor.ning.com/profile/PaulHodgson
<p>Tried to make opposition work with green mana dorks and coiling oracle, but it didn't. So went with Phyrexian crusader & pants instead :</p>
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<p>My list (iirc)</p>
<p></p>
<p>4 Phyrexian Crusader</p>
<p>4 Phyrexian Vatmother</p>
<p>4 Plague Myr</p>
<p>2 Flesh-Eater Imp</p>
<p>4 Vampire's Bite</p>
<p>2 Mortarpod</p>
<p>2 Trusty Machete</p>
<p>4 Duress</p>
<p>4 Virulent Wound</p>
<p>4 Go For The Throat</p>
<p>2 Mind Sludge</p>
<p>24 Swamp</p>
<p></p>
<p>Sideboard</p>
<p>1 Pit Trap…</p>
<p>Tried to make opposition work with green mana dorks and coiling oracle, but it didn't. So went with Phyrexian crusader & pants instead :</p>
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<p>My list (iirc)</p>
<p></p>
<p>4 Phyrexian Crusader</p>
<p>4 Phyrexian Vatmother</p>
<p>4 Plague Myr</p>
<p>2 Flesh-Eater Imp</p>
<p>4 Vampire's Bite</p>
<p>2 Mortarpod</p>
<p>2 Trusty Machete</p>
<p>4 Duress</p>
<p>4 Virulent Wound</p>
<p>4 Go For The Throat</p>
<p>2 Mind Sludge</p>
<p>24 Swamp</p>
<p></p>
<p>Sideboard</p>
<p>1 Pit Trap (should have been trip noose)</p>
<p>4 Engineered Plague</p>
<p>3 Incremental Blight</p>
<p>2 Decimator Web (should have been trip noose)</p>
<p>2 Everlasting Torment (trumps COP :D)</p>
<p>3 Macabre Waltz (to get round DoJ)</p>
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<p>Should have also had Ostracise in the sideboard to deal with Oversoul of Dusk, probably rather than the decimator webs. Crusader is a total boss, 2 turn clock with a machete and vamp bite and is often unblockable. Main problems were blastoderm, oversoul & trip noose. Wrath wasn't too bad, esp with the waltzes :D</p>
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<p>Still have a couple of games to play, maybe tonight or tomorrow if anyone's around? Phil? Ben?</p> No one played it! Plus every…tag:demonictutor.ning.com,2012-11-28:3440403:Comment:579482012-11-28T22:16:27.281ZThomas David Bakerhttp://demonictutor.ning.com/profile/ThomasDavidBaker
<p>No one played it! Plus everyone had 4 CoP: Red in their sideboard!</p>
<p>No one played it! Plus everyone had 4 CoP: Red in their sideboard!</p>