planeswalker points - Demonic Tutor2024-03-28T22:03:43Zhttp://demonictutor.ning.com/forum/topics/planeswalker-points?commentId=3440403%3AComment%3A41831&feed=yes&xn_auth=no(Let's also remember that Ame…tag:demonictutor.ning.com,2011-09-10:3440403:Comment:424652011-09-10T01:08:28.866ZThomas David Bakerhttp://demonictutor.ning.com/profile/ThomasDavidBaker
<p>(Let's also remember that America isn't one place. It takes 6 hours to FLY from New York to LA. No one can go to every American GP. If you think that people in Seattle can even go to all the West Coast GPs then why don't you go to Belgian GPs (which are nearer)? People in Idaho are probably hella pissed* too.)</p>
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<p>* = "really annoyed" in American.</p>
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<p>(Let's also remember that America isn't one place. It takes 6 hours to FLY from New York to LA. No one can go to every American GP. If you think that people in Seattle can even go to all the West Coast GPs then why don't you go to Belgian GPs (which are nearer)? People in Idaho are probably hella pissed* too.)</p>
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<p>* = "really annoyed" in American.</p>
<p> </p> If by "sit out" you mean not…tag:demonictutor.ning.com,2011-09-10:3440403:Comment:422172011-09-10T00:04:02.411ZDaniel Roydehttp://demonictutor.ning.com/profile/DanielRoyde
<p>If by "sit out" you mean not play in sanctioned, non PTQ, non GP events, then I spend a lot of time "sitting out". If by "sitting out" you mean "not playing magic", then I think you might be surprised to find that most people who sit on rating actually play more magic than the average player.</p>
<p><br></br>Playing in a shop arbitrarily gets you more points. There is no local shop for my club to affiliate with. I reiterate- Seems like a good way of finding the best players to play on the…</p>
<p>If by "sit out" you mean not play in sanctioned, non PTQ, non GP events, then I spend a lot of time "sitting out". If by "sitting out" you mean "not playing magic", then I think you might be surprised to find that most people who sit on rating actually play more magic than the average player.</p>
<p><br/>Playing in a shop arbitrarily gets you more points. There is no local shop for my club to affiliate with. I reiterate- Seems like a good way of finding the best players to play on the PT.</p>
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<p><cite>Mark Langley said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://demonictutor.ning.com/forum/topics/planeswalker-points?x=1&id=3440403%3ATopic%3A41988&page=3#3440403Comment42205"><div><p>Dan you also have to factor in that it simply isn't healthy to have a percentage of the UK playerbase simply sit out of events for 2-3 months each year to ensure they qualify for Nationals/GP Byes/PT Qualification though. Yes FNM is screwed and yes maybe the level of play locally isn't brilliant for you but the overiding feeling I get from this is that the premium events, GP's/PTQ's are now must attend events and that local events are there to bump up your points.</p>
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<p>What we haven't yet commented on or had confirmed is that the implementation seems to be in two stages and that according to Kibler there are further multipliers for finishing well at premiun events such as GP's/PT's and Nationals. These multipliers would seem to be such that if you do well, you should qualify for the next event on points. Of course this is only what is being thrown around between Maro/Kibler and Finkel currently on Twitter apparently.</p>
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<blockquote><div><p>It's possible to be good, play a fair amount of magic, and buy a reasonable amount of product without going to sanctioned events.</p>
<p>My last 10 events are: 1 PT, 3 GPs, Nationals, a random PT day 2 standard, a GPT and 2 Jason drafts.</p>
<p>The first of those was in mid MAY.</p>
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<p>I'm not the only player like this.</p>
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<p>I don't play a lot of sanctioned events because the level of play in most of those available to me is so low that it's not fun. I'm not the only player in this situation.</p>
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<p>Local events, by definition can't be of an interestingly high level. I don't want to be encouraged to go to events that aren't fun.</p>
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<p>How can people be in favour of a system of qualification which gives you more points for things that have nothing to do with playskill- participation points.</p>
<p>A system that treats a win against any opponent the same any other.</p>
<p>A system with which some people will have many more points available to them because of where they happen to live/how big their local community is.</p>
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<p>That seems like a really good way of choosing the best players for the Pro Tour.</p>
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</blockquote> That would sell, unfortunatel…tag:demonictutor.ning.com,2011-09-09:3440403:Comment:423692011-09-09T12:27:50.220ZMark Langleyhttp://demonictutor.ning.com/profile/MarkLangley
<p>That would sell, unfortunately whenever I get to booster opening my senses flare as they are still haunted by countless Deathlaces and the like so that smell is likely to cause me to enter some sort of rage.</p>
<p><br/><cite>Philip Dickinson said:</cite></p>
<blockquote><div>more importantly, when are they going to release a bottled form of that just-opened-booster smell?</div>
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<p>That would sell, unfortunately whenever I get to booster opening my senses flare as they are still haunted by countless Deathlaces and the like so that smell is likely to cause me to enter some sort of rage.</p>
<p><br/><cite>Philip Dickinson said:</cite></p>
<blockquote><div>more importantly, when are they going to release a bottled form of that just-opened-booster smell?</div>
</blockquote> more importantly, when are th…tag:demonictutor.ning.com,2011-09-09:3440403:Comment:422782011-09-09T12:08:34.917ZPhilip Dickinsonhttp://demonictutor.ning.com/profile/PhilipDickinson
more importantly, when are they going to release a bottled form of that just-opened-booster smell?
more importantly, when are they going to release a bottled form of that just-opened-booster smell? The issue is that the regiona…tag:demonictutor.ning.com,2011-09-09:3440403:Comment:418312011-09-09T11:58:09.492ZMark Langleyhttp://demonictutor.ning.com/profile/MarkLangley
<p>The issue is that the regional allocation for invites on ranking is fine but the additional 50? spots awarded on ranking will be almost entirely US based players [I don't know if that is comparable figure to what it is currently]. People who have potentially been 'able' to amass more points because of the location and structure of their countries tournament scene.</p>
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<p>These points make a big difference, not to the likes of me for example as I don't play enough anymore or even…</p>
<p>The issue is that the regional allocation for invites on ranking is fine but the additional 50? spots awarded on ranking will be almost entirely US based players [I don't know if that is comparable figure to what it is currently]. People who have potentially been 'able' to amass more points because of the location and structure of their countries tournament scene.</p>
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<p>These points make a big difference, not to the likes of me for example as I don't play enough anymore or even travel to PTQ's more than 25 miles away like I used to a long time ago, but to the likes of PTQ grinders who consistently go top 8 but do not qualify and to people on the edge of breaking through to that level from good GP results etc.</p>
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<p>From my own experiances, any advantage anyone is able to abuse to get ahead of a potential rival from another country/region in MTG is generally maximised to its full potential. This is not a redeeming feature of the game but it is part of it. It may be that when all stages are implemented that the system is fairer for PT qualification but currently it is skewed in favour of the USA or any location that can run huge FNM's.</p>
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<p>All I want as a ranking system is a level playing field that rewards active players who are skillful/lucky. This isn't a million miles away from that outside of the FNM issue. <br/><br/><cite>Philip Dickinson said:</cite></p>
<blockquote><div><p>realistically who exactly is going to be able to "grind" FNMs into a pro tour invite? why does anyone give a fuck if some random american dudes play sanctioned tournaments three nights a week and end up with pro tour invites? not to mention the fact that this process would take A LONG FUCKING TIME.</p>
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<p>the "problem" with the rating system is the embarassing names, not the way it awards invites</p>
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</blockquote> almost certainly :Stag:demonictutor.ning.com,2011-09-09:3440403:Comment:418302011-09-09T11:53:18.619ZPeter Dunhttp://demonictutor.ning.com/profile/PeterDun
almost certainly :S
almost certainly :S is there going to be an expan…tag:demonictutor.ning.com,2011-09-09:3440403:Comment:423682011-09-09T11:51:31.325ZPhilip Dickinsonhttp://demonictutor.ning.com/profile/PhilipDickinson
is there going to be an expansion where they increase the level cap by 10?
is there going to be an expansion where they increase the level cap by 10? Phil: not quite, the problem…tag:demonictutor.ning.com,2011-09-09:3440403:Comment:422092011-09-09T11:39:30.651ZPeter Dunhttp://demonictutor.ning.com/profile/PeterDun
<p>Phil: not quite, the problem with the system is that it no longer plays up mtg as a legitimate pursuit, it is now just another "game" rather than a real mindsport, and I find the sacrifice of this mark of legitimacy for such a blatant cashgrab (which I don't even think will work that well, as it will alienate a lot of casual players too) not very palatable.</p>
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<p>As for how it affects me... well it doesn't. I've only ever q'ed for the PT via ptqs, have never sat on rating (it cost…</p>
<p>Phil: not quite, the problem with the system is that it no longer plays up mtg as a legitimate pursuit, it is now just another "game" rather than a real mindsport, and I find the sacrifice of this mark of legitimacy for such a blatant cashgrab (which I don't even think will work that well, as it will alienate a lot of casual players too) not very palatable.</p>
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<p>As for how it affects me... well it doesn't. I've only ever q'ed for the PT via ptqs, have never sat on rating (it cost me a nats place one year) etc. I just dislike a lot of the OBVIOUS flaws (pro-US bias, cutting back of ptqs etc.)</p>
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<p>This is seriously making me consider a different hobby... maybe WeizSchwarz (some random anime card game) or WCCF (a football one)</p>
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<p>(Of course if they keep the online rating system on modo, I will be fine)</p> 12x for PTs and Nats.tag:demonictutor.ning.com,2011-09-09:3440403:Comment:418262011-09-09T11:16:48.527ZDan Barretthttp://demonictutor.ning.com/profile/DanBarrett
12x for PTs and Nats.
12x for PTs and Nats. I think the problem from our…tag:demonictutor.ning.com,2011-09-09:3440403:Comment:418252011-09-09T11:16:38.395ZGlenn Goldsworthyhttp://demonictutor.ning.com/profile/GlennGoldsworthy
I think the problem from our country is there is very little chance of any of us making the pro tour this way
I think the problem from our country is there is very little chance of any of us making the pro tour this way