Vintage, who knows about this? - Demonic Tutor2024-03-28T17:42:55Zhttp://demonictutor.ning.com/forum/topics/vintage-who-knows-about-this?commentId=3440403%3AComment%3A61286&feed=yes&xn_auth=noThanks for the tips guys.
So…tag:demonictutor.ning.com,2013-03-29:3440403:Comment:611972013-03-29T07:28:39.585ZGary Lynchhttp://demonictutor.ning.com/profile/GaryLynch
<p>Thanks for the tips guys.</p>
<p>So many decks to try, its actually very exciting as I have been getting quite bored of magic recently.</p>
<p>Really want to read some of those Stephen Menendian articles but fuck paying that price just to read an article.</p>
<p>Thanks for the tips guys.</p>
<p>So many decks to try, its actually very exciting as I have been getting quite bored of magic recently.</p>
<p>Really want to read some of those Stephen Menendian articles but fuck paying that price just to read an article.</p> tl;drGary Lynch said:
Ok from…tag:demonictutor.ning.com,2013-03-28:3440403:Comment:610012013-03-28T16:36:09.967ZJames Millshttp://demonictutor.ning.com/profile/JamesMills
<p>tl;dr<br></br><br></br><cite>Gary Lynch said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://demonictutor.ning.com/forum/topics/vintage-who-knows-about-this#3440403Comment61101"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Ok from having a look at some decklists this is what I have been able to find. Its quite hard as most of the decks have about 20 of the same cards in.</p>
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<p>1 Blightsteel Colossus<br></br>4 Dark Confidant<br></br>3 Snapcaster Mage<br></br>2 Jace, the Mind Sculptor<br></br>2 Island<br></br>1 Mountain<br></br>1…</p>
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<p>tl;dr<br/><br/><cite>Gary Lynch said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://demonictutor.ning.com/forum/topics/vintage-who-knows-about-this#3440403Comment61101"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Ok from having a look at some decklists this is what I have been able to find. Its quite hard as most of the decks have about 20 of the same cards in.</p>
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<p>1 Blightsteel Colossus<br/>4 Dark Confidant<br/>3 Snapcaster Mage<br/>2 Jace, the Mind Sculptor<br/>2 Island<br/>1 Mountain<br/>1 Library of Alexandria<br/>2 Polluted Delta<br/>4 Scalding Tarn<br/>3 Underground Sea<br/>2 Volcanic Island<br/>1 Tolarian Academy<br/>1 Black Lotus<br/>1 Mana Crypt<br/>1 Mox Emerald<br/>1 Mox Jet<br/>1 Mox Pearl<br/>1 Mox Ruby<br/>1 Mox Sapphire<br/>1 Sensei's Divining Top<br/>1 Sol Ring<br/>1 Time Vault<br/>1 Voltaic Key<br/>1 Ancestral Recall<br/>1 Brainstorm<br/>1 Echoing Truth<br/>1 Flusterstorm<br/>4 Force of Will<br/>1 Hurkyl's Recall<br/>1 Lightning Bolt<br/>2 Mana Drain<br/>3 Mental Misstep<br/>1 Demonic Tutor<br/>1 Dreadbore<br/>1 Merchant Scroll<br/>1 Ponder<br/>1 Time Walk<br/>1 Tinker<br/>1 Yawgmoth's Will</p>
<p><br/>1 Ratchet Bomb<br/>4 Ingot Chewer<br/>3 Yixlid Jailer<br/>1 Lightning Bolt<br/>2 Red Elemental Blast<br/>2 Surgical Extraction<br/>2 Pyroclasm</p>
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<p><br/>1 Duplicant<br/>4 Kuldotha Forgemaster<br/>4 Lodestone Golem<br/>3 Phyrexian Metamorph<br/>3 Phyrexian Revoker<br/>1 Steel Hellkite<br/>1 Sundering Titan<br/>4 Ancient Tomb<br/>1 City of Traitors<br/>4 Mishra's Factory<br/>4 Mishra's Workshop<br/>1 Strip Mine<br/>4 Wasteland<br/>1 Tolarian Academy<br/>1 Black Lotus<br/>4 Chalice of the Void<br/>1 Mana Crypt<br/>1 Mox Emerald<br/>1 Mox Jet<br/>1 Mox Pearl<br/>1 Mox Ruby<br/>1 Mox Sapphire<br/>1 Sol Ring<br/>3 Sphere of Resistance<br/>4 Tangle Wire<br/>4 Thorn of Amethyst<br/>1 Trinisphere</p>
<p><br/>3 Crucible Of Worlds<br/>4 Grafdigger's Cage<br/>2 Ratchet Bomb<br/>2 Tormod's Crypt<br/>1 Duplicant<br/>2 Razormane Masticore<br/>1 Wurmcoil Engine</p>
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<p><br/>2 Auriok Salvagers<br/>4 Trinket Mage<br/>4 Jace, the Mind Sculptor<br/>2 Vendillion Clique<br/>1 Tinker<br/>1 Blightsteel Colossus<br/>1 Aether Spellbomb<br/>1 Grafdiggers Cage<br/>1 Engineered Explosives<br/>2 Sensei's Divining Top<br/>1 Thirst for knowledge<br/>1 Time Walk<br/>1 Ancestral Recall<br/>4 Force of Will<br/>4 Mana Drain<br/>3 Mental Misstep<br/>2 Spell Snare<br/>1 Flusterstorm<br/>1 Black Lotus<br/>1 Sol Ring<br/>1 Mana Crypt<br/>1 Mox Sapphire<br/>1 Mox Ruby<br/>1 Mox Emerald <br/>1 Mox Pearl<br/>1 Mox Jet<br/>1 Library of Alexandria<br/>1 Tolarian Academy<br/>2 Cavern of Souls<br/>1 Plains<br/>3 Island<br/>4 Flooded Strand<br/>1 Polluted Delta<br/>3 Tundra</p>
<p><br/>4 Rest in Piece<br/>1 Tormod's Crypt<br/>1 Grafdiggers Cage<br/>2 Swords to Plowshares<br/>2 Disenchant<br/>2 Steel Sabotage<br/>1 Devout Witness<br/>1 Hurkyl's Recall<br/>1 Mindbreak Trap</p>
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<p><br/>1 Black Lotus<br/>2 Crucible of Worlds<br/>3 Engineered Explosives<br/>1 Mox Ruby<br/>1 Mox Sapphire<br/>1 Dismember<br/>1 Ancestral Recall<br/>4 Force of Will<br/>1 Hurkyl's Recall<br/>4 Jace, the Mind Sculptor<br/>4 Mana Drain<br/>2 Mental Misstep<br/>2 Mindbreak Trap<br/>1 Misdirection<br/>2 Spell Pierce<br/>4 Standstill<br/>3 Lightning Bolt<br/>1 Faerie Conclave<br/>2 Island<br/>1 Library of Alexandria<br/>4 Mishra's Factory<br/>1 Misty Rainforest<br/>1 Mountain<br/>4 Scalding Tarn<br/>1 Strip Mine<br/>4 Volcanic Island<br/>4 Wasteland</p>
<p><br/>1 Bojuka Bog<br/>2 Goblin Welder<br/>4 Grafdigger's Cage<br/>4 Ingot Chewer<br/>1 Nihil Spellbomb<br/>3 Tormod's Crypt</p>
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<p><br/>1 Black Lotus<br/>1 Mana Crypt<br/>1 Mox Emerald<br/>1 Mox Jet<br/>1 Mox Pearl<br/>1 Mox Ruby<br/>1 Mox Sapphire<br/>1 Sol Ring<br/>1 Demonic Tutor<br/>3 Griselbrand<br/>1 Tendrils of Agony<br/>1 Vampiric Tutor<br/>1 Yawgmoth's Will<br/>1 Ancestral Recall<br/>1 Brainstorm<br/>1 Chain of Vapor<br/>2 Flusterstorm<br/>4 Force of Will<br/>1 Hurkyl's Recall<br/>3 Impulse<br/>2 Mana Drain<br/>3 Mental Misstep<br/>1 Misdirection<br/>1 Mystical Tutor<br/>3 Show and Tell<br/>1 Time Walk<br/>4 Oath of Druids<br/>1 Regrowth<br/>3 Flooded Strand<br/>4 Forbidden Orchard<br/>2 Island<br/>2 Polluted Delta<br/>1 Tolarian Academy<br/>2 Tropical Island<br/>2 Underground Sea</p>
<p><br/>1 Abrupt Decay<br/>1 Duress<br/>2 Energy Flux<br/>1 Extirpate<br/>4 Leyline of the Void<br/>3 Nature's Claim<br/>1 Pithing Needle<br/>2 Thoughtseize</p>
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<p><br/>1 Black Lotus<br/>2 Grim Monolith<br/>1 Mana Crypt<br/>1 Mana Vault<br/>1 Mox Emerald<br/>1 Mox Jet<br/>1 Mox Opal<br/>1 Mox Pearl<br/>1 Mox Ruby<br/>1 Mox Sapphire<br/>3 Sensei's Divining Top<br/>1 Sol Ring<br/>1 Time Vault<br/>2 Voltaic Key<br/>3 Dark Confidant<br/>1 Demonic Tutor<br/>1 Vampiric Tutor<br/>1 Yawgmoth's Will<br/>1 Ancestral Recall<br/>1 Brainstorm<br/>2 Flusterstorm<br/>4 Force of Will<br/>2 Hurkyl's Recall<br/>2 Jace, the Mind Sculptor<br/>3 Mana Drain<br/>1 Mystical Tutor<br/>3 Tezzeret the Seeker<br/>1 Time Walk<br/>1 Tinker<br/>3 Island<br/>1 Library of Alexandria<br/>2 Polluted Delta<br/>4 Scalding Tarn<br/>1 Tolarian Academy<br/>2 Underground Sea<br/>2 Volcanic Island</p>
<p><br/>1 Blightsteel Colossus<br/>1 Grafdigger's Cage<br/>1 Hurkyl's Recall<br/>3 Ingot Chewer<br/>4 Leyline of the Void<br/>1 Mountain<br/>1 Red Elemental Blast<br/>1 Viashino Heretic<br/>2 Yixlid Jailer</p>
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<p><br/>1 Black Lotus<br/>1 Mox Emerald<br/>1 Mox Jet<br/>1 Mox Ruby<br/>1 Mox Sapphire<br/>4 Ratchet Bomb<br/>1 Sensei's Divining Top<br/>4 Dark Confidant<br/>4 Dark Ritual<br/>1 Demonic Tutor<br/>2 Duress<br/>4 Liliana of the Veil<br/>4 Thoughtseize<br/>4 Vampire Hexmage<br/>1 Vampiric Tutor<br/>1 Yawgmoth's Will<br/>1 Ancestral Recall<br/>1 Snapcaster Mage<br/>4 Abrupt Decay<br/>1 Crop Rotation<br/>1 Badlands<br/>2 Bayou<br/>3 Dark Depths<br/>3 Marsh Flats<br/>1 Strip Mine<br/>1 Swamp<br/>1 Underground Sea<br/>3 Verdant Catacombs<br/>1 Volrath's Stronghold<br/>2 Wasteland</p>
<p><br/>3 Leyline of the Void<br/>4 Mindbreak Trap<br/>4 Steel Sabotage<br/>4 Surgical Extraction</p>
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<p><br/>1 Black Lotus<br/>3 Grim Monolith<br/>1 Karn Liberated<br/>1 Mana Vault<br/>1 Mox Emerald<br/>1 Mox Jet<br/>1 Mox Pearl<br/>1 Mox Ruby<br/>1 Mox Sapphire<br/>1 Myr Battlesphere<br/>1 Nihil Spellbomb<br/>2 Sensei's Divining Top<br/>1 Sol Ring<br/>1 Time Vault<br/>3 Voltaic Key<br/>1 Darkblast<br/>1 Demonic Tutor<br/>1 Vampiric Tutor<br/>1 Yawgmoth's Will<br/>1 Ancestral Recall<br/>2 Back to Basics<br/>4 Force of Will<br/>1 Hurkyl's Recall<br/>2 Jace, the Mind Sculptor<br/>3 Mana Drain<br/>2 Steel Sabotage<br/>2 Tezzeret the Seeker<br/>1 Thirst for Knowledge<br/>1 Time Walk<br/>1 Tinker<br/>2 Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas<br/>1 Flooded Strand<br/>5 Island<br/>4 Polluted Delta<br/>1 Scalding Tarn<br/>1 Swamp<br/>2 Underground Sea</p>
<p><br/>3 Dismember<br/>1 Hurkyl's Recall<br/>1 Jace, the Mind Sculptor<br/>2 Mental Misstep<br/>1 Nihil Spellbomb<br/>1 Relic of Progenitus<br/>1 Steel Sabotage<br/>1 Trinisphere<br/>1 Wurmcoil Engine<br/>3 Yixlid Jailer</p>
<p><br/>4 Chalice of the Void<br/>4 Serum Powder<br/>4 Bloodghast<br/>4 Bridge from Below<br/>4 Cabal Therapy<br/>2 Dread Return<br/>2 Golgari Thug<br/>2 Ichorid<br/>4 Leyline of the Void<br/>4 Stinkweed Imp<br/>3 Unmask<br/>4 Narcomoeba<br/>1 Flame-Kin Zealot<br/>4 Golgari Grave-Troll<br/>2 Nature's Claim<br/>4 Bazaar of Baghdad<br/>3 City of Brass<br/>1 Dakmor Salvage<br/>4 Undiscovered Paradise</p>
<p><br/>1 Ancient Grudge<br/>4 Chain of Vapor<br/>1 City of Brass<br/>2 Darkblast<br/>3 Engineered Explosives<br/>2 Ingot Chewer<br/>2 Nature's Claim</p>
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<p><br/>1 Black Lotus<br/>4 Chalice of the Void<br/>3 Crucible of Worlds<br/>4 Lodestone Golem<br/>1 Mana Crypt<br/>1 Mox Emerald<br/>1 Mox Jet<br/>1 Mox Pearl<br/>1 Mox Ruby<br/>1 Mox Sapphire<br/>4 Smokestack<br/>1 Sol Ring<br/>4 Sphere of Resistance<br/>4 Tangle Wire<br/>4 Thorn of Amethyst<br/>1 Trinisphere<br/>2 Uba Mask<br/>3 Phyrexian Metamorph<br/>4 Ancient Tomb<br/>3 Bazaar of Baghdad<br/>2 Buried Ruin<br/>4 Mishra's Workshop<br/>1 Strip Mine<br/>1 Tolarian Academy<br/>4 Wasteland</p>
<p><br/>3 Ensnaring Bridge<br/>4 Grafdigger's Cage<br/>3 Null Rod<br/>2 Ratchet Bomb<br/>3 Relic of Progenitus</p>
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<p><br/>1 Black Lotus<br/>1 Blightsteel Colossus<br/>1 Mox Emerald<br/>1 Mox Jet<br/>1 Mox Pearl<br/>1 Mox Ruby<br/>1 Mox Sapphire<br/>1 Sol Ring<br/>1 Ancestral Recall<br/>1 Brainstorm<br/>4 Delver of Secrets<br/>1 Flusterstorm<br/>4 Force of Will<br/>3 Gush<br/>3 Mental Misstep<br/>1 Ponder<br/>3 Preordain<br/>3 Snapcaster Mage<br/>2 Spell Pierce<br/>1 Time Walk<br/>1 Tinker<br/>2 Trygon Predator<br/>1 Fire/Ice<br/>3 Tarmogoyf<br/>4 Lightning Bolt<br/>3 Island<br/>3 Misty Rainforest<br/>3 Scalding Tarn<br/>3 Tropical Island<br/>3 Volcanic Island</p>
<p>2 Ancient Grudge<br/>1 Fire/Ice<br/>2 Grafdigger's Cage<br/>1 Hurkyl's Recall<br/>2 Ingot Chewer<br/>2 Nature's Claim<br/>2 Pyroclasm<br/>2 Ravenous Trap<br/>1 Steel Sabotage</p>
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<p><br/>4 Aether Vial<br/>1 Black Lotus<br/>1 Mana Crypt<br/>1 Mox Ruby<br/>3 Gempalm Incinerator<br/>4 Goblin Lackey<br/>4 Goblin Matron<br/>4 Goblin Piledriver<br/>4 Goblin Ringleader<br/>1 Goblin Sharpshooter<br/>3 Goblin Vandal<br/>4 Goblin Warchief<br/>2 Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker<br/>1 Lightning Crafter<br/>3 Mogg Fanatic<br/>2 Stingscourger<br/>13 Mountain<br/>1 Strip Mine<br/>4 Wasteland</p>
<p><br/>3 Goblin Bombardment<br/>1 Goblin Welder<br/>4 Leyline of the Void<br/>1 Relic of Progenitus<br/>4 Shattering Spree<br/>2 Tormod's Crypt</p>
<p><br/>1 Black Lotus<br/>2 Chrome Mox<br/>4 Goblin Charbelcher<br/>1 Lion's Eye Diamond<br/>1 Lotus Petal<br/>1 Mana Crypt<br/>1 Mana Vault<br/>1 Memory Jar<br/>1 Mox Emerald<br/>1 Mox Jet<br/>1 Mox Pearl<br/>1 Mox Ruby<br/>1 Mox Sapphire<br/>1 Sol Ring<br/>1 Ancestral Recall<br/>4 Gitaxian Probe<br/>1 Timetwister<br/>1 Tinker<br/>1 Channel<br/>4 Elvish Spirit Guide<br/>4 Land Grant<br/>4 Manamorphose<br/>4 Tinder Wall<br/>4 Empty the Warrens<br/>4 Rite of Flame<br/>3 Seething Song<br/>4 Simian Spirit Guide<br/>1 Wheel of Fortune<br/>1 Taiga<br/>1 Tropical Island</p>
<p><br/>4 Grafdigger's Cage<br/>4 Ingot Chewer<br/>3 Pyroblast<br/>4 Xantid Swarm<br/> </p>
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<p>Do these all look like actual decks? Only saw the one Goblins and one Charbelcher, I assume that means they are not very good and maybe not worth testing.</p>
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<p>Does it look like I have missed any decks out?</p>
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</blockquote> haha thanks Gary, that was a…tag:demonictutor.ning.com,2013-03-28:3440403:Comment:611032013-03-28T14:36:52.874ZNathan Gotlibhttp://demonictutor.ning.com/profile/NathanGotlib
<p>haha thanks Gary, that was a fun round as game 3 was actually really close with me just not being able to kill him! too bad on missing out on top 8 though..</p>
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<p>I personally hated playing Burning Oath, I felt the deck did nothing... might as well play standard Oath lists is what I felt like : ) </p>
<p>haha thanks Gary, that was a fun round as game 3 was actually really close with me just not being able to kill him! too bad on missing out on top 8 though..</p>
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<p>I personally hated playing Burning Oath, I felt the deck did nothing... might as well play standard Oath lists is what I felt like : ) </p> Play Burning Oath, deck looks…tag:demonictutor.ning.com,2013-03-28:3440403:Comment:611962013-03-28T14:34:56.961ZDan Barretthttp://demonictutor.ning.com/profile/DanBarrett
<p>Play Burning Oath, deck looks fucking SICK:</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.eternalcentral.com/?p=3265" target="_blank">http://www.eternalcentral.com/?p=3265</a></p>
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<p>Apparently UR landstill isn't a bad deck either.</p>
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<p>Also people will play Shops as it is a lot easier to pilot (IMO) than a deck with actual spells. Here's a newer, more sphere-heavy shops list called Terra Nova if you want to try it:</p>
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<p><span>4 Lodestone Golem</span><br></br><span>4 Phyrexian…</span></p>
<p>Play Burning Oath, deck looks fucking SICK:</p>
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<p><a href="http://www.eternalcentral.com/?p=3265" target="_blank">http://www.eternalcentral.com/?p=3265</a></p>
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<p>Apparently UR landstill isn't a bad deck either.</p>
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<p>Also people will play Shops as it is a lot easier to pilot (IMO) than a deck with actual spells. Here's a newer, more sphere-heavy shops list called Terra Nova if you want to try it:</p>
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<p><span>4 Lodestone Golem</span><br/><span>4 Phyrexian Metamorph</span><br/><span>4 Phyrexian Revoker</span><br/><br/><span>4 Chalice of the Void</span><br/><span>4 Dismember</span><br/><span>4 Sphere of Resistance</span><br/><span>4 Thorn of Amethyst</span><br/><span>2 Sculpting Steel</span><br/><span>1 Trinisphere</span><br/><br/><span>1 Mana Crypt</span><br/><span>1 Mox Emerald</span><br/><span>1 Mox Jet</span><br/><span>1 Mox Pearl</span><br/><span>1 Mox Ruby</span><br/><span>1 Mox Sapphire</span><br/><span>1 Sol Ring</span><br/><br/><span>4 Ancient Tomb</span><br/><span>4 Mishra's Factory</span><br/><span>4 Mishra's Workshop</span><br/><span>4 Mutavault</span><br/><span>4 Wasteland</span><br/><span>1 Strip Mine</span><br/><span>1 Tolarian Academy</span><br/><br/><span>SB:</span><br/><br/><span>4 Grafdigger's Cage</span><br/><span>3 Null Rod</span><br/><span>3 The Tabernacle of Pendrell Vale</span><br/><span>3 Tormod's Crypt</span><br/><span>2 Ghost Quarter</span></p>
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<p><span>I highly recommend printing off a bunch of proxies and jamming some games with whoever you play with down there - you'll have the occasional "whoops I win on t2" hand, but most of the time you actually need to do stuff and interact with your opponent, so just goldfishing may not be that helpful.</span></p> hehe found this http://www.yo…tag:demonictutor.ning.com,2013-03-28:3440403:Comment:612872013-03-28T00:38:58.959ZGary Lynchhttp://demonictutor.ning.com/profile/GaryLynch
<p>hehe found this <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Rs0U6rtLuI">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Rs0U6rtLuI</a></p>
<p>lol at game 1</p>
<p>hehe found this <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Rs0U6rtLuI">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Rs0U6rtLuI</a></p>
<p>lol at game 1</p> number one choice ^_^ #yolo #…tag:demonictutor.ning.com,2013-03-28:3440403:Comment:611952013-03-28T00:34:06.735ZPhilip Dickinsonhttp://demonictutor.ning.com/profile/PhilipDickinson
<p>number one choice ^_^ #yolo #wizards #GRIZZLY #3goyfs<br/> <br/> <cite>James Mills said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://demonictutor.ning.com/forum/topics/vintage-who-knows-about-this?page=1&commentId=3440403%3AComment%3A61000&x=1#3440403Comment60997"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>GW wizards 'n' clerics!!!</p>
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<p>number one choice ^_^ #yolo #wizards #GRIZZLY #3goyfs<br/> <br/> <cite>James Mills said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://demonictutor.ning.com/forum/topics/vintage-who-knows-about-this?page=1&commentId=3440403%3AComment%3A61000&x=1#3440403Comment60997"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>GW wizards 'n' clerics!!!</p>
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</blockquote> lol that would be why thentag:demonictutor.ning.com,2013-03-27:3440403:Comment:610002013-03-27T22:36:59.236ZGary Lynchhttp://demonictutor.ning.com/profile/GaryLynch
<p>lol that would be why then</p>
<p>lol that would be why then</p> Gary, please have a look at t…tag:demonictutor.ning.com,2013-03-27:3440403:Comment:611022013-03-27T22:22:51.216ZNathan Gotlibhttp://demonictutor.ning.com/profile/NathanGotlib
<p>Gary, please have a look at the restricted list before you attempt the format : D <br></br> <br></br> <cite>Gary Lynch said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://demonictutor.ning.com/forum/topics/vintage-who-knows-about-this?xg_source=activity#3440403Comment61286"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Wow just found this article…</p>
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<p>Gary, please have a look at the restricted list before you attempt the format : D <br/> <br/> <cite>Gary Lynch said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://demonictutor.ning.com/forum/topics/vintage-who-knows-about-this?xg_source=activity#3440403Comment61286"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Wow just found this article <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.starcitygames.com/article/25260_Grixis-On-The-Draw-vs-Workshops.html">http://www.starcitygames.com/article/25260_Grixis-On-The-Draw-vs-Wo...</a></p>
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<p>Lets hope if I play Grixis there are not a lot of Shop decks.</p>
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<p>This did make me wonder somthing though. Why does the deck have 4 Wasteland and 1 Strip Mine? Wasteland only hits non basics so why is Strip Mine not better?</p>
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</blockquote> Ok from having a look at some…tag:demonictutor.ning.com,2013-03-27:3440403:Comment:611012013-03-27T22:05:14.791ZGary Lynchhttp://demonictutor.ning.com/profile/GaryLynch
<p>Ok from having a look at some decklists this is what I have been able to find. Its quite hard as most of the decks have about 20 of the same cards in.</p>
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<p>1 Blightsteel Colossus<br></br>4 Dark Confidant<br></br>3 Snapcaster Mage<br></br>2 Jace, the Mind Sculptor<br></br>2 Island<br></br>1 Mountain<br></br>1 Library of Alexandria<br></br>2 Polluted Delta<br></br>4 Scalding Tarn<br></br>3 Underground Sea<br></br>2 Volcanic Island<br></br>1 Tolarian Academy<br></br>1 Black Lotus<br></br>1 Mana Crypt<br></br>1 Mox Emerald<br></br>1 Mox…</p>
<p>Ok from having a look at some decklists this is what I have been able to find. Its quite hard as most of the decks have about 20 of the same cards in.</p>
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<p>1 Blightsteel Colossus<br/>4 Dark Confidant<br/>3 Snapcaster Mage<br/>2 Jace, the Mind Sculptor<br/>2 Island<br/>1 Mountain<br/>1 Library of Alexandria<br/>2 Polluted Delta<br/>4 Scalding Tarn<br/>3 Underground Sea<br/>2 Volcanic Island<br/>1 Tolarian Academy<br/>1 Black Lotus<br/>1 Mana Crypt<br/>1 Mox Emerald<br/>1 Mox Jet<br/>1 Mox Pearl<br/>1 Mox Ruby<br/>1 Mox Sapphire<br/>1 Sensei's Divining Top<br/>1 Sol Ring<br/>1 Time Vault<br/>1 Voltaic Key<br/>1 Ancestral Recall<br/>1 Brainstorm<br/>1 Echoing Truth<br/>1 Flusterstorm<br/>4 Force of Will<br/>1 Hurkyl's Recall<br/>1 Lightning Bolt<br/>2 Mana Drain<br/>3 Mental Misstep<br/>1 Demonic Tutor<br/>1 Dreadbore<br/>1 Merchant Scroll<br/>1 Ponder<br/>1 Time Walk<br/>1 Tinker<br/>1 Yawgmoth's Will</p>
<p><br/>1 Ratchet Bomb<br/>4 Ingot Chewer<br/>3 Yixlid Jailer<br/>1 Lightning Bolt<br/>2 Red Elemental Blast<br/>2 Surgical Extraction<br/>2 Pyroclasm</p>
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<p><br/>1 Duplicant<br/>4 Kuldotha Forgemaster<br/>4 Lodestone Golem<br/>3 Phyrexian Metamorph<br/>3 Phyrexian Revoker<br/>1 Steel Hellkite<br/>1 Sundering Titan<br/>4 Ancient Tomb<br/>1 City of Traitors<br/>4 Mishra's Factory<br/>4 Mishra's Workshop<br/>1 Strip Mine<br/>4 Wasteland<br/>1 Tolarian Academy<br/>1 Black Lotus<br/>4 Chalice of the Void<br/>1 Mana Crypt<br/>1 Mox Emerald<br/>1 Mox Jet<br/>1 Mox Pearl<br/>1 Mox Ruby<br/>1 Mox Sapphire<br/>1 Sol Ring<br/>3 Sphere of Resistance<br/>4 Tangle Wire<br/>4 Thorn of Amethyst<br/>1 Trinisphere</p>
<p><br/>3 Crucible Of Worlds<br/>4 Grafdigger's Cage<br/>2 Ratchet Bomb<br/>2 Tormod's Crypt<br/>1 Duplicant<br/>2 Razormane Masticore<br/>1 Wurmcoil Engine</p>
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<p><br/>2 Auriok Salvagers<br/>4 Trinket Mage<br/>4 Jace, the Mind Sculptor<br/>2 Vendillion Clique<br/>1 Tinker<br/>1 Blightsteel Colossus<br/>1 Aether Spellbomb<br/>1 Grafdiggers Cage<br/>1 Engineered Explosives<br/>2 Sensei's Divining Top<br/>1 Thirst for knowledge<br/>1 Time Walk<br/>1 Ancestral Recall<br/>4 Force of Will<br/>4 Mana Drain<br/>3 Mental Misstep<br/>2 Spell Snare<br/>1 Flusterstorm<br/>1 Black Lotus<br/>1 Sol Ring<br/>1 Mana Crypt<br/>1 Mox Sapphire<br/>1 Mox Ruby<br/>1 Mox Emerald <br/>1 Mox Pearl<br/>1 Mox Jet<br/>1 Library of Alexandria<br/>1 Tolarian Academy<br/>2 Cavern of Souls<br/>1 Plains<br/>3 Island<br/>4 Flooded Strand<br/>1 Polluted Delta<br/>3 Tundra</p>
<p><br/>4 Rest in Piece<br/>1 Tormod's Crypt<br/>1 Grafdiggers Cage<br/>2 Swords to Plowshares<br/>2 Disenchant<br/>2 Steel Sabotage<br/>1 Devout Witness<br/>1 Hurkyl's Recall<br/>1 Mindbreak Trap</p>
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<p><br/>1 Black Lotus<br/>2 Crucible of Worlds<br/>3 Engineered Explosives<br/>1 Mox Ruby<br/>1 Mox Sapphire<br/>1 Dismember<br/>1 Ancestral Recall<br/>4 Force of Will<br/>1 Hurkyl's Recall<br/>4 Jace, the Mind Sculptor<br/>4 Mana Drain<br/>2 Mental Misstep<br/>2 Mindbreak Trap<br/>1 Misdirection<br/>2 Spell Pierce<br/>4 Standstill<br/>3 Lightning Bolt<br/>1 Faerie Conclave<br/>2 Island<br/>1 Library of Alexandria<br/>4 Mishra's Factory<br/>1 Misty Rainforest<br/>1 Mountain<br/>4 Scalding Tarn<br/>1 Strip Mine<br/>4 Volcanic Island<br/>4 Wasteland</p>
<p><br/>1 Bojuka Bog<br/>2 Goblin Welder<br/>4 Grafdigger's Cage<br/>4 Ingot Chewer<br/>1 Nihil Spellbomb<br/>3 Tormod's Crypt</p>
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<p><br/>1 Black Lotus<br/>1 Mana Crypt<br/>1 Mox Emerald<br/>1 Mox Jet<br/>1 Mox Pearl<br/>1 Mox Ruby<br/>1 Mox Sapphire<br/>1 Sol Ring<br/>1 Demonic Tutor<br/>3 Griselbrand<br/>1 Tendrils of Agony<br/>1 Vampiric Tutor<br/>1 Yawgmoth's Will<br/>1 Ancestral Recall<br/>1 Brainstorm<br/>1 Chain of Vapor<br/>2 Flusterstorm<br/>4 Force of Will<br/>1 Hurkyl's Recall<br/>3 Impulse<br/>2 Mana Drain<br/>3 Mental Misstep<br/>1 Misdirection<br/>1 Mystical Tutor<br/>3 Show and Tell<br/>1 Time Walk<br/>4 Oath of Druids<br/>1 Regrowth<br/>3 Flooded Strand<br/>4 Forbidden Orchard<br/>2 Island<br/>2 Polluted Delta<br/>1 Tolarian Academy<br/>2 Tropical Island<br/>2 Underground Sea</p>
<p><br/>1 Abrupt Decay<br/>1 Duress<br/>2 Energy Flux<br/>1 Extirpate<br/>4 Leyline of the Void<br/>3 Nature's Claim<br/>1 Pithing Needle<br/>2 Thoughtseize</p>
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<p><br/>1 Black Lotus<br/>2 Grim Monolith<br/>1 Mana Crypt<br/>1 Mana Vault<br/>1 Mox Emerald<br/>1 Mox Jet<br/>1 Mox Opal<br/>1 Mox Pearl<br/>1 Mox Ruby<br/>1 Mox Sapphire<br/>3 Sensei's Divining Top<br/>1 Sol Ring<br/>1 Time Vault<br/>2 Voltaic Key<br/>3 Dark Confidant<br/>1 Demonic Tutor<br/>1 Vampiric Tutor<br/>1 Yawgmoth's Will<br/>1 Ancestral Recall<br/>1 Brainstorm<br/>2 Flusterstorm<br/>4 Force of Will<br/>2 Hurkyl's Recall<br/>2 Jace, the Mind Sculptor<br/>3 Mana Drain<br/>1 Mystical Tutor<br/>3 Tezzeret the Seeker<br/>1 Time Walk<br/>1 Tinker<br/>3 Island<br/>1 Library of Alexandria<br/>2 Polluted Delta<br/>4 Scalding Tarn<br/>1 Tolarian Academy<br/>2 Underground Sea<br/>2 Volcanic Island</p>
<p><br/>1 Blightsteel Colossus<br/>1 Grafdigger's Cage<br/>1 Hurkyl's Recall<br/>3 Ingot Chewer<br/>4 Leyline of the Void<br/>1 Mountain<br/>1 Red Elemental Blast<br/>1 Viashino Heretic<br/>2 Yixlid Jailer</p>
<p> </p>
<p><br/>1 Black Lotus<br/>1 Mox Emerald<br/>1 Mox Jet<br/>1 Mox Ruby<br/>1 Mox Sapphire<br/>4 Ratchet Bomb<br/>1 Sensei's Divining Top<br/>4 Dark Confidant<br/>4 Dark Ritual<br/>1 Demonic Tutor<br/>2 Duress<br/>4 Liliana of the Veil<br/>4 Thoughtseize<br/>4 Vampire Hexmage<br/>1 Vampiric Tutor<br/>1 Yawgmoth's Will<br/>1 Ancestral Recall<br/>1 Snapcaster Mage<br/>4 Abrupt Decay<br/>1 Crop Rotation<br/>1 Badlands<br/>2 Bayou<br/>3 Dark Depths<br/>3 Marsh Flats<br/>1 Strip Mine<br/>1 Swamp<br/>1 Underground Sea<br/>3 Verdant Catacombs<br/>1 Volrath's Stronghold<br/>2 Wasteland</p>
<p><br/>3 Leyline of the Void<br/>4 Mindbreak Trap<br/>4 Steel Sabotage<br/>4 Surgical Extraction</p>
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<p><br/>1 Black Lotus<br/>3 Grim Monolith<br/>1 Karn Liberated<br/>1 Mana Vault<br/>1 Mox Emerald<br/>1 Mox Jet<br/>1 Mox Pearl<br/>1 Mox Ruby<br/>1 Mox Sapphire<br/>1 Myr Battlesphere<br/>1 Nihil Spellbomb<br/>2 Sensei's Divining Top<br/>1 Sol Ring<br/>1 Time Vault<br/>3 Voltaic Key<br/>1 Darkblast<br/>1 Demonic Tutor<br/>1 Vampiric Tutor<br/>1 Yawgmoth's Will<br/>1 Ancestral Recall<br/>2 Back to Basics<br/>4 Force of Will<br/>1 Hurkyl's Recall<br/>2 Jace, the Mind Sculptor<br/>3 Mana Drain<br/>2 Steel Sabotage<br/>2 Tezzeret the Seeker<br/>1 Thirst for Knowledge<br/>1 Time Walk<br/>1 Tinker<br/>2 Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas<br/>1 Flooded Strand<br/>5 Island<br/>4 Polluted Delta<br/>1 Scalding Tarn<br/>1 Swamp<br/>2 Underground Sea</p>
<p><br/>3 Dismember<br/>1 Hurkyl's Recall<br/>1 Jace, the Mind Sculptor<br/>2 Mental Misstep<br/>1 Nihil Spellbomb<br/>1 Relic of Progenitus<br/>1 Steel Sabotage<br/>1 Trinisphere<br/>1 Wurmcoil Engine<br/>3 Yixlid Jailer</p>
<p><br/>4 Chalice of the Void<br/>4 Serum Powder<br/>4 Bloodghast<br/>4 Bridge from Below<br/>4 Cabal Therapy<br/>2 Dread Return<br/>2 Golgari Thug<br/>2 Ichorid<br/>4 Leyline of the Void<br/>4 Stinkweed Imp<br/>3 Unmask<br/>4 Narcomoeba<br/>1 Flame-Kin Zealot<br/>4 Golgari Grave-Troll<br/>2 Nature's Claim<br/>4 Bazaar of Baghdad<br/>3 City of Brass<br/>1 Dakmor Salvage<br/>4 Undiscovered Paradise</p>
<p><br/>1 Ancient Grudge<br/>4 Chain of Vapor<br/>1 City of Brass<br/>2 Darkblast<br/>3 Engineered Explosives<br/>2 Ingot Chewer<br/>2 Nature's Claim</p>
<p> </p>
<p><br/>1 Black Lotus<br/>4 Chalice of the Void<br/>3 Crucible of Worlds<br/>4 Lodestone Golem<br/>1 Mana Crypt<br/>1 Mox Emerald<br/>1 Mox Jet<br/>1 Mox Pearl<br/>1 Mox Ruby<br/>1 Mox Sapphire<br/>4 Smokestack<br/>1 Sol Ring<br/>4 Sphere of Resistance<br/>4 Tangle Wire<br/>4 Thorn of Amethyst<br/>1 Trinisphere<br/>2 Uba Mask<br/>3 Phyrexian Metamorph<br/>4 Ancient Tomb<br/>3 Bazaar of Baghdad<br/>2 Buried Ruin<br/>4 Mishra's Workshop<br/>1 Strip Mine<br/>1 Tolarian Academy<br/>4 Wasteland</p>
<p><br/>3 Ensnaring Bridge<br/>4 Grafdigger's Cage<br/>3 Null Rod<br/>2 Ratchet Bomb<br/>3 Relic of Progenitus</p>
<p> </p>
<p><br/>1 Black Lotus<br/>1 Blightsteel Colossus<br/>1 Mox Emerald<br/>1 Mox Jet<br/>1 Mox Pearl<br/>1 Mox Ruby<br/>1 Mox Sapphire<br/>1 Sol Ring<br/>1 Ancestral Recall<br/>1 Brainstorm<br/>4 Delver of Secrets<br/>1 Flusterstorm<br/>4 Force of Will<br/>3 Gush<br/>3 Mental Misstep<br/>1 Ponder<br/>3 Preordain<br/>3 Snapcaster Mage<br/>2 Spell Pierce<br/>1 Time Walk<br/>1 Tinker<br/>2 Trygon Predator<br/>1 Fire/Ice<br/>3 Tarmogoyf<br/>4 Lightning Bolt<br/>3 Island<br/>3 Misty Rainforest<br/>3 Scalding Tarn<br/>3 Tropical Island<br/>3 Volcanic Island</p>
<p>2 Ancient Grudge<br/>1 Fire/Ice<br/>2 Grafdigger's Cage<br/>1 Hurkyl's Recall<br/>2 Ingot Chewer<br/>2 Nature's Claim<br/>2 Pyroclasm<br/>2 Ravenous Trap<br/>1 Steel Sabotage</p>
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<p><br/>4 Aether Vial<br/>1 Black Lotus<br/>1 Mana Crypt<br/>1 Mox Ruby<br/>3 Gempalm Incinerator<br/>4 Goblin Lackey<br/>4 Goblin Matron<br/>4 Goblin Piledriver<br/>4 Goblin Ringleader<br/>1 Goblin Sharpshooter<br/>3 Goblin Vandal<br/>4 Goblin Warchief<br/>2 Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker<br/>1 Lightning Crafter<br/>3 Mogg Fanatic<br/>2 Stingscourger<br/>13 Mountain<br/>1 Strip Mine<br/>4 Wasteland</p>
<p><br/>3 Goblin Bombardment<br/>1 Goblin Welder<br/>4 Leyline of the Void<br/>1 Relic of Progenitus<br/>4 Shattering Spree<br/>2 Tormod's Crypt</p>
<p><br/>1 Black Lotus<br/>2 Chrome Mox<br/>4 Goblin Charbelcher<br/>1 Lion's Eye Diamond<br/>1 Lotus Petal<br/>1 Mana Crypt<br/>1 Mana Vault<br/>1 Memory Jar<br/>1 Mox Emerald<br/>1 Mox Jet<br/>1 Mox Pearl<br/>1 Mox Ruby<br/>1 Mox Sapphire<br/>1 Sol Ring<br/>1 Ancestral Recall<br/>4 Gitaxian Probe<br/>1 Timetwister<br/>1 Tinker<br/>1 Channel<br/>4 Elvish Spirit Guide<br/>4 Land Grant<br/>4 Manamorphose<br/>4 Tinder Wall<br/>4 Empty the Warrens<br/>4 Rite of Flame<br/>3 Seething Song<br/>4 Simian Spirit Guide<br/>1 Wheel of Fortune<br/>1 Taiga<br/>1 Tropical Island</p>
<p><br/>4 Grafdigger's Cage<br/>4 Ingot Chewer<br/>3 Pyroblast<br/>4 Xantid Swarm<br/> </p>
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<p>Do these all look like actual decks? Only saw the one Goblins and one Charbelcher, I assume that means they are not very good and maybe not worth testing.</p>
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<p>Does it look like I have missed any decks out?</p> Wow just found this article h…tag:demonictutor.ning.com,2013-03-27:3440403:Comment:612862013-03-27T21:31:51.135ZGary Lynchhttp://demonictutor.ning.com/profile/GaryLynch
<p>Wow just found this article <a href="http://www.starcitygames.com/article/25260_Grixis-On-The-Draw-vs-Workshops.html">http://www.starcitygames.com/article/25260_Grixis-On-The-Draw-vs-Workshops.html</a></p>
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<p>Lets hope if I play Grixis there are not a lot of Shop decks.</p>
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<p>This did make me wonder somthing though. Why does the deck have 4 Wasteland and 1 Strip Mine? Wasteland only hits non basics so why is Strip Mine not better?</p>
<p>Wow just found this article <a href="http://www.starcitygames.com/article/25260_Grixis-On-The-Draw-vs-Workshops.html">http://www.starcitygames.com/article/25260_Grixis-On-The-Draw-vs-Workshops.html</a></p>
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<p>Lets hope if I play Grixis there are not a lot of Shop decks.</p>
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<p>This did make me wonder somthing though. Why does the deck have 4 Wasteland and 1 Strip Mine? Wasteland only hits non basics so why is Strip Mine not better?</p>