Round Eight - Demonic Tutor2024-03-28T17:57:51Zhttps://demonictutor.ning.com/forum/topics/round-eight?groupUrl=four-card-blind&commentId=3440403%3AComment%3A60148&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noIn future in the case of a mu…tag:demonictutor.ning.com,2013-03-01:3440403:Comment:601482013-03-01T18:52:34.836ZThomas David Bakerhttps://demonictutor.ning.com/profile/ThomasDavidBaker
<p>In future in the case of a multi-way draw on points we'll declare all players winners and ban all cards from their decks.</p>
<p>In future in the case of a multi-way draw on points we'll declare all players winners and ban all cards from their decks.</p> OK after updating all results…tag:demonictutor.ning.com,2013-03-01:3440403:Comment:601942013-03-01T18:50:45.895ZThomas David Bakerhttps://demonictutor.ning.com/profile/ThomasDavidBaker
<p>OK after updating all results (thank Thom!) I have this as a win for Charlie with:</p>
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<p><span>Ghost Quarter</span><br/><span>Maze of Ith</span><br/><span>Bitterblossom</span><br/><span>Mox Jet</span></p>
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<p>Charlie 12<br/>Tom 11<br/>Phil 11<br/>Thom 11<br/>Simon 9<br/>Kieran 3<br/>Ross 0</p>
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<p>Very close this time.</p>
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<p>OK after updating all results (thank Thom!) I have this as a win for Charlie with:</p>
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<p><span>Ghost Quarter</span><br/><span>Maze of Ith</span><br/><span>Bitterblossom</span><br/><span>Mox Jet</span></p>
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<p>Charlie 12<br/>Tom 11<br/>Phil 11<br/>Thom 11<br/>Simon 9<br/>Kieran 3<br/>Ross 0</p>
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<p>Very close this time.</p>
<p></p> Good point. From gatherer:…tag:demonictutor.ning.com,2013-02-27:3440403:Comment:601732013-02-27T20:43:14.250ZThom Richardsonhttps://demonictutor.ning.com/profile/ThomRichardson
<p>Good point. From gatherer:</p>
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<p><span>After all players have decided not to take any more mulligans, if the starting player has any Leylines in his or her hand, he or she may put any or all of them onto the battlefield. Then each other player in turn order may do the same.</span></p>
<p>Good point. From gatherer:</p>
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<p><span>After all players have decided not to take any more mulligans, if the starting player has any Leylines in his or her hand, he or she may put any or all of them onto the battlefield. Then each other player in turn order may do the same.</span></p> Depending on how Leylines wor…tag:demonictutor.ning.com,2013-02-27:3440403:Comment:601122013-02-27T20:07:16.343ZCharlie Groverhttps://demonictutor.ning.com/profile/CharlieGrover
<p>Depending on how Leylines work its possible that Phil v Thom becomes a complete headache when Phil is on the play?<br></br>On the play Thom makes Karakas as his opening land and phil cant ever cast anything</p>
<p>On the draw Phil turn 1's his meddling mage. Thom ghost quarters Karakas and then makes his own, bounces mage, and proceeds to win with nexus.<br></br>BUT how does both players having Leylines work? Is it hidden information whether you're putting one in? Or does Phil get the choice first…</p>
<p>Depending on how Leylines work its possible that Phil v Thom becomes a complete headache when Phil is on the play?<br/>On the play Thom makes Karakas as his opening land and phil cant ever cast anything</p>
<p>On the draw Phil turn 1's his meddling mage. Thom ghost quarters Karakas and then makes his own, bounces mage, and proceeds to win with nexus.<br/>BUT how does both players having Leylines work? Is it hidden information whether you're putting one in? Or does Phil get the choice first then Thom? Because if they both play one, meddling mage cant get bounced by Karakas and then Phil wins the race (since the Leylines legend rule each other). I suspect Phil makes a choice then Thom makes a choice (so Thom wins) but its possible that it doesnt work like that.</p> Charlie is right. But what w…tag:demonictutor.ning.com,2013-02-27:3440403:Comment:601722013-02-27T19:56:36.403ZThom Richardsonhttps://demonictutor.ning.com/profile/ThomRichardson
<p>Charlie is right. But what would have happened if Him and Simon had drawn?</p>
<p>There would have been 3 people on 11 points. Do we do game wins, head to head, tie?</p>
<p>Charlie is right. But what would have happened if Him and Simon had drawn?</p>
<p>There would have been 3 people on 11 points. Do we do game wins, head to head, tie?</p> My results with Thom and Phil…tag:demonictutor.ning.com,2013-02-27:3440403:Comment:599342013-02-27T19:26:48.871ZCharlie Groverhttps://demonictutor.ning.com/profile/CharlieGrover
<p>My results with Thom and Phil might be right for the wrong reasons; Leyline of singularity destroys bitterblossom tokens. So against Phil ith forces a draw and against Thom I just hold Quarter till he plays nexus and kill it. Interesting that the results are still the same though <br></br><br></br>I think I can force a draw vs. Simon when he is on the play (making it 1-0 to me). If he chain of smogs me on turn 1, I choose not to copy it and he cant cast spirit. If he chain of smogs himself,…</p>
<p>My results with Thom and Phil might be right for the wrong reasons; Leyline of singularity destroys bitterblossom tokens. So against Phil ith forces a draw and against Thom I just hold Quarter till he plays nexus and kill it. Interesting that the results are still the same though <br/><br/>I think I can force a draw vs. Simon when he is on the play (making it 1-0 to me). If he chain of smogs me on turn 1, I choose not to copy it and he cant cast spirit. If he chain of smogs himself, discarding the rest of his hand, I keep maze/quarter, quarter his quarter and then put down maze for nether spirit? I'm pretty sure I\ve just missed something obvious.</p> I think Tom beats Kieran 2-0…tag:demonictutor.ning.com,2013-02-27:3440403:Comment:601112013-02-27T19:02:37.529ZThom Richardsonhttps://demonictutor.ning.com/profile/ThomRichardson
<p>I think Tom beats Kieran 2-0</p>
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<p>K1 God's eye</p>
<p>T1 Everything Ajani (4)</p>
<p>K2 tiaga, crack sac gods eye. (sac mox)</p>
<p>T2 Ajani -2 (2) kill spirit</p>
<p>K3 remeberance</p>
<p>T3 lock out the tiaga for 6 turns then win.</p>
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<p>Charlie wins 2-0 against kieran</p>
<p>K1 god's eye</p>
<p>C1 ghost quarter, mox, bitterblossom.</p>
<p>K2 tiaga, crack (god's eye, mox)</p>
<p>C2 kill the tiaga</p>
<p>I think Tom beats Kieran 2-0</p>
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<p>K1 God's eye</p>
<p>T1 Everything Ajani (4)</p>
<p>K2 tiaga, crack sac gods eye. (sac mox)</p>
<p>T2 Ajani -2 (2) kill spirit</p>
<p>K3 remeberance</p>
<p>T3 lock out the tiaga for 6 turns then win.</p>
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<p>Charlie wins 2-0 against kieran</p>
<p>K1 god's eye</p>
<p>C1 ghost quarter, mox, bitterblossom.</p>
<p>K2 tiaga, crack (god's eye, mox)</p>
<p>C2 kill the tiaga</p> Surprisingly the spirit token…tag:demonictutor.ning.com,2013-02-27:3440403:Comment:601702013-02-27T18:55:01.779ZThom Richardsonhttps://demonictutor.ning.com/profile/ThomRichardson
<p>Surprisingly the spirit token doesn't fly. <br></br> <br></br> <cite>Thomas David Baker said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://demonictutor.ning.com/forum/topics/round-eight?groupUrl=four-card-blind&commentId=3440403%3AComment%3A60110&xg_source=activity&groupId=3440403%3AGroup%3A59865#3440403Comment60110"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>@Thom - Can Kieran block your 1/1 with his 1/1 to force the draw?</p>
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<p>I missed that Charlie has to play Ghost Quarter to resolve…</p>
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<p>Surprisingly the spirit token doesn't fly. <br/> <br/> <cite>Thomas David Baker said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://demonictutor.ning.com/forum/topics/round-eight?groupUrl=four-card-blind&commentId=3440403%3AComment%3A60110&xg_source=activity&groupId=3440403%3AGroup%3A59865#3440403Comment60110"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>@Thom - Can Kieran block your 1/1 with his 1/1 to force the draw?</p>
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<p>I missed that Charlie has to play Ghost Quarter to resolve Bitterblossom. So 0-0 sounds right. Updated.</p>
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</blockquote> @Thom - Can Kieran block your…tag:demonictutor.ning.com,2013-02-27:3440403:Comment:601102013-02-27T18:51:27.723ZThomas David Bakerhttps://demonictutor.ning.com/profile/ThomasDavidBaker
<p>@Thom - Can Kieran block your 1/1 with his 1/1 to force the draw?</p>
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<p>I missed that Charlie has to play Ghost Quarter to resolve Bitterblossom. So 0-0 sounds right. Updated.</p>
<p>@Thom - Can Kieran block your 1/1 with his 1/1 to force the draw?</p>
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<p>I missed that Charlie has to play Ghost Quarter to resolve Bitterblossom. So 0-0 sounds right. Updated.</p> Kieran needs to have both lan…tag:demonictutor.ning.com,2013-02-27:3440403:Comment:599332013-02-27T17:45:56.436ZThom Richardsonhttps://demonictutor.ning.com/profile/ThomRichardson
<p>Kieran needs to have both lands in play when crack the earth resolves to be able to restart his engine.</p>
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<p>Kieran on the play</p>
<p>K1 gods eye</p>
<p>T1 ghost quarter</p>
<p>K2 Tiaga, crack the earth is a win for me.</p>
<p>Because I ghost quarter a land in response and kieran then can't remeberance. I lose leyline and then easily race a 1/1 with a 1/1 flying infect.</p>
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<p>So I think I win 2-0</p>
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<p>Charlie on the play.</p>
<p>C1 Ghost quarter, Mox,…</p>
<p>Kieran needs to have both lands in play when crack the earth resolves to be able to restart his engine.</p>
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<p>Kieran on the play</p>
<p>K1 gods eye</p>
<p>T1 ghost quarter</p>
<p>K2 Tiaga, crack the earth is a win for me.</p>
<p>Because I ghost quarter a land in response and kieran then can't remeberance. I lose leyline and then easily race a 1/1 with a 1/1 flying infect.</p>
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<p>So I think I win 2-0</p>
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<p>Charlie on the play.</p>
<p>C1 Ghost quarter, Mox, Blossom</p>
<p>T1 Ghost quarter. ghost quarter.</p>
<p>C2 Maze (19) , 1 token.</p>
<p>T2 Karakas. Charlie can never get a non-summoning sick token into play so I win.</p>
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<p>Except I cant beat maze of ith if charlie doesn't play blossom. so we stare at each other.</p>
<p>0-0</p>