TGC Monthly Constructed + Game Day's - discussion - Demonic Tutor2024-03-29T12:32:45Zhttps://demonictutor.ning.com/forum/topics/tgc-monthly-constructed-game?commentId=3440403%3AComment%3A22185&feed=yes&xn_auth=noTo look like a bit of a dick,…tag:demonictutor.ning.com,2010-10-25:3440403:Comment:223302010-10-25T10:53:48.117ZDan Barretthttps://demonictutor.ning.com/profile/DanBarrett
To look like a bit of a dick, I'll now be missing this Saturday's Game Day.<br />
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It's because of a one-off more important thing though - going to look at flats.<br />
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The rest of you should still go though, and I may still make it in for a draft/cube/Ascension later on!
To look like a bit of a dick, I'll now be missing this Saturday's Game Day.<br />
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It's because of a one-off more important thing though - going to look at flats.<br />
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The rest of you should still go though, and I may still make it in for a draft/cube/Ascension later on! Me and Liz usually only go to…tag:demonictutor.ning.com,2010-10-22:3440403:Comment:222772010-10-22T22:14:39.209ZSimon Baldwinhttps://demonictutor.ning.com/profile/lhsi
Me and Liz usually only go to the 'big'(ger) events in London, and local events during the week, but have started full time work (quite a shock from being full time students...) so haven't been able to go to either that often recently.<br />
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The last Game Day we went to (the M11 one) was the only one I managed to convince her to play at (instead of go shopping in London), but I seem to recall her being somewhat disappointed that, out of four rounds, two of them were against basically the same deck,…
Me and Liz usually only go to the 'big'(ger) events in London, and local events during the week, but have started full time work (quite a shock from being full time students...) so haven't been able to go to either that often recently.<br />
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The last Game Day we went to (the M11 one) was the only one I managed to convince her to play at (instead of go shopping in London), but I seem to recall her being somewhat disappointed that, out of four rounds, two of them were against basically the same deck, and an incredibly boring one to play against at that.<br />
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People play the game for different reasons (Wizards does have 3 major 'player profiles'); so will go to events for different reasons, expecting different outcomes/experiences. (Oversimplifying this next bit greatly, apologies), Some may want to go just to get prizes (be it packs, or special shiny cards), some may want to go just to practice playing (to get better for an upcoming or future tournament), some may want to go just to have fun playing the game, some may want to just spend time with like minded people in a social environment. I'm sure there are various other reasons I can't think of at the moment. The point I'm trying to make is that while greater prize support may encourage some to come along more often, not everyone is going to be interested in what prizes there are.<br />
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Time (particularly day of the week) is also an important factor to consider (I think its been mentioned before); some might be busy at the weekends for example. I guess also the time of year can be important (for example, half term for schools have just started: those of school age (and teachers) will have more time during the week, but parents of kids of school age may have less time if they are looking after their kids). Dan Barrett said:Ouch.Lots of…tag:demonictutor.ning.com,2010-10-21:3440403:Comment:222032010-10-21T17:13:28.987ZThe Games Clubhttps://demonictutor.ning.com/profile/JasonHowlett
<cite>Dan Barrett said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://demonictutor.ning.com/forum/topics/tgc-monthly-constructed-game?id=3440403%3ATopic%3A22052&page=2#3440403Comment22202"><div>Ouch.<br/><br/>Lots of speculation going on right now, would be good to hear from you exactly what changes if any are happening.</div>
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It is expected that there will be little to no change in the Organised Play available, once The Games Club has conformed to the new WPN policy.
<cite>Dan Barrett said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://demonictutor.ning.com/forum/topics/tgc-monthly-constructed-game?id=3440403%3ATopic%3A22052&page=2#3440403Comment22202"><div>Ouch.<br/><br/>Lots of speculation going on right now, would be good to hear from you exactly what changes if any are happening.</div>
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It is expected that there will be little to no change in the Organised Play available, once The Games Club has conformed to the new WPN policy. Ouch.
Are we gonna have some…tag:demonictutor.ning.com,2010-10-21:3440403:Comment:222022010-10-21T16:16:36.187ZDan Barretthttps://demonictutor.ning.com/profile/DanBarrett
Ouch.<br />
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Are we gonna have some kinda statement about the future of TGC taking into account these new changes?<br />
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Lots of speculation going on right now, would be good to hear from you exactly what changes if any are happening.<br></br>
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<cite>Jason Howlett said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://demonictutor.ning.com/forum/topics/tgc-monthly-constructed-game?commentId=3440403%3AComment%3A22201&xg_source=msg_com_forum#3440403Comment22201"><div><cite>Dan Barrett said:…</cite></div>
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Ouch.<br />
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Are we gonna have some kinda statement about the future of TGC taking into account these new changes?<br />
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Lots of speculation going on right now, would be good to hear from you exactly what changes if any are happening.<br/>
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<cite>Jason Howlett said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://demonictutor.ning.com/forum/topics/tgc-monthly-constructed-game?commentId=3440403%3AComment%3A22201&xg_source=msg_com_forum#3440403Comment22201"><div><cite>Dan Barrett said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://demonictutor.ning.com/forum/topics/tgc-monthly-constructed-game?id=3440403%3ATopic%3A22052&page=2#3440403Comment22200"><div>Can't sanction it, then</div>
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Does it matter?<br/>
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We know the Wizards of the Coast don't care if I run sanctioned events (sic).</div>
</blockquote> Dan Barrett said:Can't sancti…tag:demonictutor.ning.com,2010-10-21:3440403:Comment:222012010-10-21T16:13:25.600ZThe Games Clubhttps://demonictutor.ning.com/profile/JasonHowlett
<cite>Dan Barrett said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://demonictutor.ning.com/forum/topics/tgc-monthly-constructed-game?id=3440403%3ATopic%3A22052&page=2#3440403Comment22200"><div>Can't sanction it, then</div>
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Does it matter?<br/>
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We know the Wizards of the Coast don't care if The Games Club runs sanctioned events (sic).
<cite>Dan Barrett said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://demonictutor.ning.com/forum/topics/tgc-monthly-constructed-game?id=3440403%3ATopic%3A22052&page=2#3440403Comment22200"><div>Can't sanction it, then</div>
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Does it matter?<br/>
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We know the Wizards of the Coast don't care if The Games Club runs sanctioned events (sic). Can't sanction it, then.
Kie…tag:demonictutor.ning.com,2010-10-21:3440403:Comment:222002010-10-21T16:10:05.448ZDan Barretthttps://demonictutor.ning.com/profile/DanBarrett
Can't sanction it, then.<br></br>
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<cite>Kieran Symington said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://demonictutor.bluebones.net/forum/topics/tgc-monthly-constructed-game?commentId=3440403%3AComment%3A22199&xg_source=msg_com_forum#3440403Comment22199"><div>What if the monthly constructed allowed proxies? (Good ones, obviously) Then it would be really useful for testing decks you might be thinking about buying and you wouldn't have to spend a fortune on cards to participate. The last one, for…</div>
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Can't sanction it, then.<br/>
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<cite>Kieran Symington said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://demonictutor.bluebones.net/forum/topics/tgc-monthly-constructed-game?commentId=3440403%3AComment%3A22199&xg_source=msg_com_forum#3440403Comment22199"><div>What if the monthly constructed allowed proxies? (Good ones, obviously) Then it would be really useful for testing decks you might be thinking about buying and you wouldn't have to spend a fortune on cards to participate. The last one, for example, would have been good for testing cards from Scars ready for the Game Day without having had to buy them first.</div>
</blockquote> What if the monthly construct…tag:demonictutor.ning.com,2010-10-21:3440403:Comment:221992010-10-21T16:03:23.993ZKieran Symingtonhttps://demonictutor.ning.com/profile/KieranSymington
What if the monthly constructed allowed proxies? (Good ones, obviously) Then it would be really useful for testing decks you might be thinking about buying and you wouldn't have to spend a fortune on cards to participate. The last one, for example, would have been good for testing cards from Scars ready for the Game Day without having had to buy them first.
What if the monthly constructed allowed proxies? (Good ones, obviously) Then it would be really useful for testing decks you might be thinking about buying and you wouldn't have to spend a fortune on cards to participate. The last one, for example, would have been good for testing cards from Scars ready for the Game Day without having had to buy them first. Referencing my earlier post,…tag:demonictutor.ning.com,2010-10-21:3440403:Comment:221982010-10-21T15:28:02.438ZBen Titmarshhttps://demonictutor.ning.com/profile/BenTitmarsh
Referencing my earlier post, the quality of top 8 foils has gone down considerably since the days of Mutavault. Obviously this is outside of your control Jason. From the top of my head some ideas for prize improvements for the monthly construced:<br />
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- A Games Club Trophy/Shield (They do something similar in Kent I believe)<br />
- Winner gets entry to the invitational event<br />
- £5 drafts at The Games Club for a month<br />
- Chase cards procured from Mike e.g. a full set of foil commons from the latest set, a…
Referencing my earlier post, the quality of top 8 foils has gone down considerably since the days of Mutavault. Obviously this is outside of your control Jason. From the top of my head some ideas for prize improvements for the monthly construced:<br />
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- A Games Club Trophy/Shield (They do something similar in Kent I believe)<br />
- Winner gets entry to the invitational event<br />
- £5 drafts at The Games Club for a month<br />
- Chase cards procured from Mike e.g. a full set of foil commons from the latest set, a playset of a particular standard rare. 'Win a Foil Planeswalker Day'.<br />
- Magic Madhouse voucher<br />
- Judge Foils/DCI Promo cards<br />
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Just something that's not boosters. I also echo the comments of other people that I only get limited weekends to attend Magic events, and I'd rather attend one that has a prize i'm interested in.<br />
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<cite>Jason Howlett said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://demonictutor.ning.com/forum/topics/tgc-monthly-constructed-game#3440403Comment22185"><div><cite>Ben Titmarsh said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://demonictutor.ning.com/forum/topics/tgc-monthly-constructed-game#3440403Comment22081"><div>...but if there was more incentive as far as prizes were concerned I would definitely be happier to commit my saturday to one</div>
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How about giving some constructive examples of what "more incentive" actually means?<br/>
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For example not being kicked in the crotch is a pretty good prize - would that be a sufficient incentive?<br/>
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Or how about a display of boosters for everyone that takes part? (However the entrance fee would have to go up a little bit or so!)</div>
</blockquote> Rebecca Bonfield said:Time…tag:demonictutor.ning.com,2010-10-21:3440403:Comment:221952010-10-21T15:19:49.639ZAmar Dattanihttps://demonictutor.ning.com/profile/AmarDattani
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<cite>Rebecca Bonfield said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://demonictutor.ning.com/forum/topics/tgc-monthly-constructed-game#3440403Comment22100"><div>Time is a big factor here.<br></br> <br></br> I want to attend the PTQs so I'm scheduled to play Magic every other weekend well into December. Game Day and even more so the monthlys are what I give up to be able to do that.</div>
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I think Rebecca just hit the nail on the head - because the Magic Premier event schedule is so…
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<cite>Rebecca Bonfield said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://demonictutor.ning.com/forum/topics/tgc-monthly-constructed-game#3440403Comment22100"><div>Time is a big factor here.<br/> <br/> I want to attend the PTQs so I'm scheduled to play Magic every other weekend well into December. Game Day and even more so the monthlys are what I give up to be able to do that.</div>
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I think Rebecca just hit the nail on the head - because the Magic Premier event schedule is so busy (PTQs, GPTs, Nats Qualifiers) people don't have enough weekends to play more casual tournaments.<br/>
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I don't know if this has become more of a problem recently (you used to get better numbers at Constructed days a few years ago, right Jason?). It is also due to the rising cost of standard. I know I am now unwilling to pay retail for Tier 1 standard decks due to the prohibitive mythic rare cost.<br/>
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I don't think it's a problem with prizes. Offering more boosters will not solve the problem - it's just that boosters cannot compare to a Pro Tour place or 3 byes at a GP. Ben Titmarsh said:...but if t…tag:demonictutor.ning.com,2010-10-21:3440403:Comment:221852010-10-21T15:01:52.031ZThe Games Clubhttps://demonictutor.ning.com/profile/JasonHowlett
<cite>Ben Titmarsh said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://demonictutor.ning.com/forum/topics/tgc-monthly-constructed-game#3440403Comment22081"><div>...but if there was more incentive as far as prizes were concerned I would definitely be happier to commit my saturday to one</div>
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How about giving some constructive examples of what "more incentive" actually means?<br />
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For example not being kicked in the crotch is a pretty good prize - would that be a sufficient incentive?<br />
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Or how about…
<cite>Ben Titmarsh said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://demonictutor.ning.com/forum/topics/tgc-monthly-constructed-game#3440403Comment22081"><div>...but if there was more incentive as far as prizes were concerned I would definitely be happier to commit my saturday to one</div>
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How about giving some constructive examples of what "more incentive" actually means?<br />
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For example not being kicked in the crotch is a pretty good prize - would that be a sufficient incentive?<br />
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Or how about a display of boosters for everyone that takes part? (However the entrance fee would have to go up a little bit or so!)