What Innistrad/Dark Ascension Tell Us About Cubes - Demonic Tutor2024-03-28T12:50:20Zhttps://demonictutor.ning.com/forum/topics/what-innistrad-dark-ascension-tell-us-about-cubes?commentId=3440403%3AComment%3A50679&feed=yes&xn_auth=noDon't be silly, it's obviousl…tag:demonictutor.ning.com,2012-02-15:3440403:Comment:502582012-02-15T16:53:35.353ZDan Barretthttps://demonictutor.ning.com/profile/DanBarrett
<p>Don't be silly, it's obviously bonkers.<br></br> <br></br> <cite>ross miles said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://demonictutor.ning.com/forum/topics/what-innistrad-dark-ascension-tell-us-about-cubes?commentId=3440403%3AComment%3A50257&xg_source=activity#3440403Comment50499"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>have you considered talon trooper?<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Thomas David Baker said:…</cite></p>
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<p>Don't be silly, it's obviously bonkers.<br/> <br/> <cite>ross miles said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://demonictutor.ning.com/forum/topics/what-innistrad-dark-ascension-tell-us-about-cubes?commentId=3440403%3AComment%3A50257&xg_source=activity#3440403Comment50499"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>have you considered talon trooper?<br/> <br/> <cite>Thomas David Baker said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://demonictutor.ning.com/forum/topics/what-innistrad-dark-ascension-tell-us-about-cubes?id=3440403%3ATopic%3A50357&page=2#3440403Comment50604"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Ross I think you are right. Better to have broad areas of synergy than a particular card or cards that you have to have for an archetype to work. I'm in love with cards that look shit until you break them at the moment. <a rel="nofollow" class="card" style="border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: #000000;" href="http://magiccards.info/query.php?cardname=Gnaw%20to%20the%20Bone">Gnaw to the Bone</a> being the main one but I find everything from <a rel="nofollow" class="name">Mulch</a> to <a rel="nofollow" class="card" style="border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: #000000;" href="http://magiccards.info/query.php?cardname=Demonmail%20Hauberk">Demonmail Hauberk</a> inspiring.</p>
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</blockquote> have you considered talon tro…tag:demonictutor.ning.com,2012-02-15:3440403:Comment:504992012-02-15T16:40:26.546Zross mileshttps://demonictutor.ning.com/profile/rossmiles
<p>have you considered talon trooper?<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Thomas David Baker said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://demonictutor.ning.com/forum/topics/what-innistrad-dark-ascension-tell-us-about-cubes?id=3440403%3ATopic%3A50357&page=2#3440403Comment50604"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Ross I think you are right. Better to have broad areas of synergy than a particular card or cards that you have to have for an archetype to work. I'm in love with cards that look shit until you break…</p>
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<p>have you considered talon trooper?<br/> <br/> <cite>Thomas David Baker said:</cite></p>
<blockquote cite="http://demonictutor.ning.com/forum/topics/what-innistrad-dark-ascension-tell-us-about-cubes?id=3440403%3ATopic%3A50357&page=2#3440403Comment50604"><div><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>Ross I think you are right. Better to have broad areas of synergy than a particular card or cards that you have to have for an archetype to work. I'm in love with cards that look shit until you break them at the moment. <a class="card" style="border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: #000000;" href="http://magiccards.info/query.php?cardname=Gnaw%20to%20the%20Bone">Gnaw to the Bone</a> being the main one but I find everything from <a class="name">Mulch</a> to <a class="card" style="border-bottom-width: 1px; border-bottom-style: dotted; border-bottom-color: #000000;" href="http://magiccards.info/query.php?cardname=Demonmail%20Hauberk">Demonmail Hauberk</a> inspiring.</p>
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</blockquote> Ross I think you are right. B…tag:demonictutor.ning.com,2012-02-15:3440403:Comment:506042012-02-15T16:32:41.204ZThomas David Bakerhttps://demonictutor.ning.com/profile/ThomasDavidBaker
<p>Ross I think you are right. Better to have broad areas of synergy than a particular card or cards that you have to have for an archetype to work. I'm in love with cards that look shit until you break them at the moment. <a class="card">Gnaw to the Bone</a> being the main one but I find everything from <a class="name">Mulch</a> to <a class="card">Demonmail Hauberk</a> inspiring.</p>
<p>Ross I think you are right. Better to have broad areas of synergy than a particular card or cards that you have to have for an archetype to work. I'm in love with cards that look shit until you break them at the moment. <a class="card">Gnaw to the Bone</a> being the main one but I find everything from <a class="name">Mulch</a> to <a class="card">Demonmail Hauberk</a> inspiring.</p> Unfortunately Dan although it…tag:demonictutor.ning.com,2012-02-15:3440403:Comment:502572012-02-15T16:15:47.657ZThomas David Bakerhttps://demonictutor.ning.com/profile/ThomasDavidBaker
<p>Unfortunately Dan although it is a lovely friendly casual format you'll probably have the same problem I had with my Enchantress EDH with <a class="card">Genju of the Fields</a> as general. Even though I didn't even particularly want to cast the guy the fact that he was a Legendary Enchantment not a Legendary Creature meant as often as not people made me switch to Progenitus with great indignation.</p>
<p>I wouldn't mind, though.</p>
<p>Unfortunately Dan although it is a lovely friendly casual format you'll probably have the same problem I had with my Enchantress EDH with <a class="card">Genju of the Fields</a> as general. Even though I didn't even particularly want to cast the guy the fact that he was a Legendary Enchantment not a Legendary Creature meant as often as not people made me switch to Progenitus with great indignation.</p>
<p>I wouldn't mind, though.</p> I am actually thinking of put…tag:demonictutor.ning.com,2012-02-15:3440403:Comment:506792012-02-15T16:10:15.187ZDan Barretthttps://demonictutor.ning.com/profile/DanBarrett
<p>I am actually thinking of putting 4 squadron hawk and gifts ungiven in a U/W Sygg commander deck, because even though banned they would be completely fair, and screw you you can't tell me what to do.</p>
<p>I am actually thinking of putting 4 squadron hawk and gifts ungiven in a U/W Sygg commander deck, because even though banned they would be completely fair, and screw you you can't tell me what to do.</p> the difference between spider…tag:demonictutor.ning.com,2012-02-15:3440403:Comment:506032012-02-15T15:45:57.090Zross mileshttps://demonictutor.ning.com/profile/rossmiles
<p>the difference between spider spawning and burning vengeance is quite interesting -</p>
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<p>the spider spawning deck worked with a variation of cards and you only needed one of a each - the decks would come out slightly different each time - some with spawning as the win - some aiming for the combo - some winning with maniac. you also didnt need all the pieces to make the deck - you could even not have spider spawning if you had enough other stuff and one of the other win…</p>
<p>the difference between spider spawning and burning vengeance is quite interesting -</p>
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<p>the spider spawning deck worked with a variation of cards and you only needed one of a each - the decks would come out slightly different each time - some with spawning as the win - some aiming for the combo - some winning with maniac. you also didnt need all the pieces to make the deck - you could even not have spider spawning if you had enough other stuff and one of the other win conditions.</p>
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<p>Burning vengeance needed vengeance in multiples to be good. so was more dependant on one card. </p>
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<p>It is very possible to design a draft set that allows for spider spawning type decks - you just make cards that care about the same things - like your graveyard cube. it seems likely, with good design that a set like this would develop over time as new interactions were spotted. designing a set that allows for decks like vengeance seems harder (if there are not multiples) unless you have tutoring effects.</p>
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<p>even then i dont think vengeance style strategies are as good as spawning ones as they rely on one card, and a good vengeance deck looked the same at the start of innistrad as it did at the end. this is not true of the various mill strategies.</p> i'm just putting one in my bi…tag:demonictutor.ning.com,2012-02-15:3440403:Comment:504972012-02-15T15:36:12.194Zross mileshttps://demonictutor.ning.com/profile/rossmiles
<p>i'm just putting one in my bird commander deck - along with a talon trooper of course!<br></br> <br></br> <cite>Dan Barrett said:</cite></p>
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<p>Squadron hawk - how many should you get if you draft it?</p>
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<p>It's against the rules in commander, but would…</p>
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<p>i'm just putting one in my bird commander deck - along with a talon trooper of course!<br/> <br/> <cite>Dan Barrett said:</cite></p>
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<p>Squadron hawk - how many should you get if you draft it?</p>
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<p>It's against the rules in commander, but would you refuse to play with me if I had a set in my deck?</p>
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<p>Here's one for you:</p>
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<p>Squadron hawk - how many should you get if you draft it?</p>
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<p>It's against the rules in commander, but would you refuse to play with me if I had a set in my deck?</p>
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<p>Squadron hawk - how many should you get if you draft it?</p>
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<p>It's against the rules in commander, but would you refuse to play with me if I had a set in my deck?</p> Hence my question about multi…tag:demonictutor.ning.com,2012-02-15:3440403:Comment:506762012-02-15T14:12:49.761ZThomas David Bakerhttps://demonictutor.ning.com/profile/ThomasDavidBaker
<p>Hence my question about multiples!</p>
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<p>Hence my question about multiples!</p>
<p></p> ah, kk, but the problem with…tag:demonictutor.ning.com,2012-02-15:3440403:Comment:502562012-02-15T13:18:01.360ZPeter Dunhttps://demonictutor.ning.com/profile/PeterDun
<p>ah, kk, but the problem with building your deck around vengence is what happens if you don't get vengence, or don't draw your 1 of...</p>
<p>ah, kk, but the problem with building your deck around vengence is what happens if you don't get vengence, or don't draw your 1 of...</p>