You Make the Masters Set

[Thomas David Baker]

I loved Innistrad.  I believed Maro when he said New World Order made things better for experienced players too and used Innistrad as an example.

Then Modern Masters came out and despite having to include a bunch of rares and only being allowed cards from Mirrodin to Shards it was way better than anything we've seen since Innistrad, and most of what came before, too.

It will be minimum one year until the next Modern Masters.

So, my idea is, let's make our own Modern Masters.

Random ideas that are very much half formed:

* 6 of each of 60 commons, 3 of each of 60 uncommons, 2 of each of 50 rares, 1 of each of 10 mythics is 650 cards.

* Use old cards, pre-Mirrodin, for spell-based funtimes and novelty even for players that have been playing for a while.

* Invent cards where necessary to fill holes.

* Some possible seeded archetypes: free spell necro, ug madness, gro, draw-go, astral slide, reanimator, artifact control, mill, auras, tokens, birthing pod, pox, sacrifice, prison, wizard tribal.

* Possibly include a lot of Legacy playables and call it "Legacy Masters".  What wizards would print if they said fuck it to the secondary market and the reserve list and tried to support legacy via a "Masters" release.

What do you think?  Interested in being on the development team?  Could make for some cheap Tuesday nights during the long reign of M14* ...

* = Bit of a cheap shot.  I've actually really enjoyed 3 of the last 4 core set drafts.

[Thomas David Baker]

You can draft the latest version at http://cubetutor.com/draft/1393

[Simon O'Keeffe]

Is this right?

There are a ton of odd cards in here, like all the black shadow guys and split cards. Black has almost 200 cards more than any other colour.

Thomas David Baker said:

You can draft the latest version at http://cubetutor.com/draft/1393

[Thomas David Baker]

I included a lot of the maybes.  I guess B has a lot more maybe Commons than the other colors.

[Thomas David Baker]

I tried to ask Maro about our Uncommons problem but I didn't get much in the way of help. Can't think of a good way to phrase the question!

http://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/54660531702/sets-usually-have-...

[Simon O'Keeffe]

I assume you were talking about distinct cards at a given rarity, and I assume MaRo is talking about raw volume?

Are you trying to ask "What would be the effect of printing the same number of distinct cards at each rarity?"

[Thomas David Baker]

I was trying to ask him "if we had 80 Uncommons instead of 60 what's bad about that?"

[Thomas David Baker]

Anyone up for a Sunday playtest/draft?

[Thomas David Baker]

Last minute Legacy Masters FNM at my place in Pimlico if anyone is at a loose end.

[Thomas David Baker]

When the Opals turn into Creatures they are no longer Enchantments. Didn't know that.

[Thomas David Baker]

The stats page now supports filtering by color and by rarity.

http://mv.bluebones.net/stats/

(Note: Multicolored and Colorless don't work for now.)

Things we have 4 or more of at Common:

63 Creatures

22 Instants

17 Humans

11 Cycling

11 Enchantments

11 Flying

11 Sorceries

9 Goblins

7 Auras

7 Clerics

7 Soldiers

6 Shadow

5 Beasts

5 Wizards

4 Elves

Most of the discussion still happening at http://bit.ly/legacy-masters-trello

[Thomas David Baker]

Commons statfest ...

 

Power, Toughness and Removal at Common

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Nonblack Creatures die to Snuff Out.
Attacking Creatures get exiled by Second Thoughts.

Artifacts die to Scrap, Break Asunder and Seal of Cleansing.

Enchantments die to Break Asunder and Seal of Cleansing.

These stats are slightly wonky due to Trample, Phantom Nomad and the two Spikes.

1 Toughness (27 Creatures) die to:
        Kor Chant in combat with anything

        Profane Prayers with one Cleric

        Firebolt

        Heat Ray for 1

        Mogg Fanatic

        Strafe

        Fireslinger

        Lavamancer's Skill on any Creature

        Tribal Flames

        Thunderclap

        Solar Blast (Cycled or not)

        60 Creatures

33 Creatures survive

2 Toughness (17 Creatures) die to:
        Kor Chant in combat with one of 41 Creatures

        Profane Prayers with two Clerics

        Firebolt

        Heat Ray for 2

        Strafe

        Lavamancer's Skill on a Wizard

        Tribal Flames for 2

        Thunderclap

        Solar Blast

        41 Creatures

16 Creatures survive

3 Toughness (6 Creatures) die to:
        Kor Chant in combat with one of 14 Creatures

        Profane Prayers with 3 Clerics

        Heat Ray for 3

        Strafe

        Tribal Flames for 3

        Thunderclap

        Solar Blast

        14 Creatures

10 Creatures survive

4 Toughness (6 Creatures) die to:
        Kor Chant in combat with one of 6 Creatures

        Profane Prayers with 4 Clerics

        Heat Ray for 4

        Tribal Flames for 4

        6 Creatures

4 Creatures survive

5 Toughness (2 Creatures) die to:
        Kor Chant in combat with one of 4 Creatures

        Profane Prayers with 5 Clerics

        Heat Ray for 5

        Tribal Flames with Domain

        4 Creatures

2 Creatures survive

6 Toughness (2 Creatures) die to:
        Kor Chant in combat with one of 2 Creatures

        Profane Prayers with 6 Clerics

        Heat Ray for 6

        2 Creatures

No Creatures survive

1 Power (19 Creatures) die to:
        Ghastly Demise for 1

        Swat

41 Creatures survive

2 Power (27 Creatures) die to:
        Ghastly Demise for 2

        Swat

14 Creatures survive

3 Power (8 Creatures) die to:
        Ghastly Demise for 3
6 Creatures survive

4 Power (2 Creatures) die to:
        Ghastly Demise for 4

        Radiant's Judgment

4 Creatures survive

5 Power (2 Creatures) die to:
        Ghastly Demise for 5

        Radiant's Judgment

2 Creatures survive

6 Power (2 Creatures) die to:
        Ghastly Demise for 6

        Radiant's Judgment

No Creatures survive

Creature stats at Common:

3 0/0
16 1/1

 1 1/2

 2 1/4

 9 2/1

16 2/2

 2 2/3

 2 3/1

 3 3/3

 2 3/4

 1 3/6

 2 4/4

 1 5/3

 1 5/5

 1 6/5

 1 6/6

[Dan Barrett]

This article seems relevant to our interests:

http://blog.mtgmadness.com/index.php/limited-revolution/alexander-west