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Magic: the Gathering in the UK

Just read this http://www.manaleak.com/mtguk/2011/02/bringing-it-back-with-banesla...

 

He says in 1 round he gets deck checked and the Judge is able to cut to Cryptic 4 or 5 times. He is then told not to worry and just bend it back in to shape. Not given a game loss at all.

 

I was pretty surprised in this in as far as I can tell this sounds like marked cards pattern. I have never heard of people not getting a game loss for this and often for less. Example sleaves being a bit worn but with no pattern.

 

My quetion is was this a mistake on the Judges part or was it favoritism to a known player? Thoughts?

 

Also interesting side note is that he lost one of the next 2 games and would have been on 2 losses and therefore out of the tournament making it have a completly different winner. Lucky for him he got to play a game 3, one I feel he should have not be in.

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(It's round 4 not 1?)

 

It doesn't say how many trials they did of cutting to the cryptic, mentions that it's not just the cryptics but a majority of the deck that is foil, and also that he took the cards out of sleeves and bent them back to straight before continuing.

 

OH, and the head judge was DLS, which now makes this sound like a witch hunt (knowing he'd never play favourites or do anything outside of the judging regulations).

If it wasn't a judge who we all know and respect, maybe I'd wonder if it was a judging mistake, but it's DLS...
I saw Matteo's deck; it was foiled out enough that i dont think giving him a game loss was necessary; a couple of his basics looked more bent than the cryptics to me. Also, DLS is the nuts.

I dont know DLS's reason for not game loss'ing him but being able to cut to a specific card usualy results in a game loss, some times worse. I just dont see what made this different.

 

Allowing him to fix the mistake is something most people are not given until after they have recieved the game loss.

 

Im aware a lot of his deck was foil, but thats the risk you take when you play foils.

 

Just seems out of the ordinary.

There is no such infraction as Marked Card Pattern anymore. The infraction is Marked Cards which carries a Penalty of a Warning. There is an option to upgrade this if the judge feels the markings would clearly compromise the integrity of the game. I cannot comment on individual cases but the judge in question obviously decided that was not the case. If you were unhappy with the decision did you appeal?

 

Graham Theobalds DCI Judge

Hi all - thanks for the ego boost :p

 

Anyhow, Graham's quite right - the offence is just 'Marked Cards' now, with a note that HJs should upgrade in cases where there's significant potential for abuse.

 

These cards could be cut to, but not easily.  It required a fair bit of looking-at-the-deck-sideways.  It was fairly straightforward to take them out of the sleeves and correct it.

 

And for the avoidance of any doubt, naturally I would rule the same for any player with similarly wonky cards in this situation.  The only difference in Matteo being a 'known player' is that you probably wouldn't have heard about it from anyone else.

Thanks for the response. Didnt know about this rules change.

Oh, boo!  It's so boring when everyone's friends and everything makes sense.

Let's start a different rumor.

Did anyone else hear that Gary played in a Yu-Gi-Oh tournament and was DQ'ed for yelling "I'LL GIVE YOU HEART OF THE CARDS SUNSHINE!!!!" at a five-year-old?

 

Untrue due to fear of being shanked.
James Mills is in fact "human"?  a truly shocking reverlation

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