Decks from the PT

[Gary Lynch]

Just wondering if Jason is gonna proxie these up. Should be good to start playing extended now. Perhaps if he doesnt read this someone could ask him Monday. I would really like to play the Yosei/Emeria/Mirren deck or the Martyr deck by Colney Woods.

[James Mills]

Jason - if you are going to proxie the decks up could you also do Tooth and Nail, Scapeshift combo and Wizards? They all did quite well at the PT

[wv]

Just play the best deck in the format ffs.

Rubin Zoo or GTFO

[Gary Lynch]

Just testing a small number of decks is weak. Yes they will be played but you always come up against a veriety of decks at PTQ's. Plus Im not really interested in playing Zoo nomatter how good it is.

[wv]

Fair enough. I'd say the testing pool needs to include AT LEAST:

Hypergenesis
Dark Depths
Zoo (Rubin, tribal, dark, bant, etc)
Faeries
Dredge
Rock (all variants including LoamCrime & Deathcloud)
Tooth & Nail
Scapeshift combo
Elves!
Next Level Trinket

Yeah, it's a lot of proxies, but that there is the current Extended gauntlet we should seriously be testing.



Gary Lynch said:

Just testing a small number of decks is weak. Yes they will be played but you always come up against a veriety of decks at PTQ's. Plus Im not really interested in playing Zoo nomatter how good it is.

[Dan Barrett]

I don't think we need so many zoo variants. And so many decks that about 3 people played that had little impact?! Scapeshift combo?! If we're including that, we should also include zombie tribal and kamigawa-block theme decks into our testing as well.

[wv]

Oh right.

I was under the impression we wanted to do proper testing rather than TESTING FOR FRIGGIN GIRLS.

Dan Barrett said:

I don't think we need so many zoo variants. And so many decks that about 3 people played that had little impact?! Scapeshift combo?! If we're including that, we should also include zombie tribal and kamigawa-block theme decks into our testing as well.

[Dan Barrett]

My point is - you can go to 3 ptqs, and still not play against some of these decks, as the %age they make up[ is so small. So designing your deck/sb for a matchup you are unlikely to face in a 7-round event is a flawed idea - fair enough if you want to play one of these decks, but as far as testing is concerned, we should concentrate on decks that actually make up[ some percentage of the meta.

Assuming Austin meta holds true, you are likely to play at least 1 Zoo, 1 Dredge, 1 NLB, maybe 1 Dark Depths, then 3/4 random other decks, which may include duplicates of the above. Preparing for the matches you will most often play seems the best idea.

[Kieran Symington]

Dan Barrett said:

We should also include zombie tribal and kamigawa-block theme decks into our testing....

It's about time!

[Ben Titmarsh]

When's the next Extended event in London/UK that's worth going to?

[Charlie Grover]

Hvae uou ever played an extended PTQ? BEcause I have. And Warren has. And you play the same decks over and over again, so usually 2 zoo 2 *best blue deck* 2 combo deck (scapeshift or dark depths or T&N) 1 dredge then whatever makes top 8, usually zoo x4 combo x2 control x 2.
And knowing what the tier 2 decks do means we can play them. Which is a bonus, bcos no one knows how to SB againt tier 2 decks, and PTQers in England for the most part really suck.

And ben, the next constructd PTQ season is extended.

Dan Barrett said:

My point is - you can go to 3 ptqs, and still not play against some of these decks, as the %age they make up[ is so small. So designing your deck/sb for a matchup you are unlikely to face in a 7-round event is a flawed idea - fair enough if you want to play one of these decks, but as far as testing is concerned, we should concentrate on decks that actually make up[ some percentage of the meta.

Assuming Austin meta holds true, you are likely to play at least 1 Zoo, 1 Dredge, 1 NLB, maybe 1 Dark Depths, then 3/4 random other decks, which may include duplicates of the above. Preparing for the matches you will most often play seems the best idea.

[Dan Barrett]

PTQs starting early next year


Ben Titmarsh said:

When's the next Extended event in London/UK that's worth going to?

[wv]

Read this. The man knows what he's talking about.

Dan - it's not just about the sideboard - it's about knowing what to expect when some fucking noob sits down infront of you with his janked out 'combo' deck.

You can forget about making day 2 if you rock up at a PTQ having not even played against Tier 2 decks.

Just sayin'.

That Ginger One said:

Hvae uou ever played an extended PTQ? BEcause I have. And Warren has. And you play the same decks over and over again, so usually 2 zoo 2 *best blue deck* 2 combo deck (scapeshift or dark depths or T&N) 1 dredge then whatever makes top 8, usually zoo x4 combo x2 control x 2.
And knowing what the tier 2 decks do means we can play them. Which is a bonus, bcos no one knows how to SB againt tier 2 decks, and PTQers in England for the most part really suck. And ben, the next constructd PTQ season is extended. Dan Barrett said:

My point is - you can go to 3 ptqs, and still not play against some of these decks, as the %age they make up[ is so small. So designing your deck/sb for a matchup you are unlikely to face in a 7-round event is a flawed idea - fair enough if you want to play one of these decks, but as far as testing is concerned, we should concentrate on decks that actually make up[ some percentage of the meta.

Assuming Austin meta holds true, you are likely to play at least 1 Zoo, 1 Dredge, 1 NLB, maybe 1 Dark Depths, then 3/4 random other decks, which may include duplicates of the above. Preparing for the matches you will most often play seems the best idea.