Demonic Tutor

Magic: the Gathering in the UK

20 lands (tbc)
4 Dryad Arbor

4 Through the Breach
4 Protean Hulk
4 Hedron Crab
4 Sakura Tribe Elder
4 Seething Song
4 Remand
4 Vendilion Clique
4 Peer Through Depths
2 Summoner's Pact
2 Jace, the Mind Sculptor

sideboard (tbc)


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I've also been trying to build a Swath-Shot deck with no success (it goldfishes too slow at present), and was thinkign about Dragonstorm... Ideas there too?

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Seems interesting- had thought that hulk didn't work anymore. Here's the list of cards I had in it last year that aren't in yours:

Gigadrowse
Eerie Procession
Ponder
Serum Visions
Chrome Mox
Pentad Prism
Pact of Negation

The clique and jace seem strange- I'd have thought it's better to be faster.
Other problems: Drawing 2 dryad arbors makes it hard to combo.
Condescend?

Despite this, I like it a lot.
Clique and Jace both allow you to put crabs back in your library, clique protects against countermagic somewhat, and Jace can also put back arbors. Clique also holds off a marit lage token/trades with a nacatl to buy a turn, jace can bounce such problems. Maybe other cards do these jobs better though? Could definitely change these up for desperate rituals/rite of flames to be quicker, or alternate protection/shuffler-back-in-ers.

Other cards you mention are also possibilities, for the sideboard at least.

Daniel Royde said:
Seems interesting- had thought that hulk didn't work anymore. Here's the list of cards I had in it last year that aren't in yours:
Gigadrowse Eerie Procession
Ponder
Serum Visions
Chrome Mox
Pentad Prism
Pact of Negation

The clique and jace seem strange- I'd have thought it's better to be faster.
Other problems: Drawing 2 dryad arbors makes it hard to combo.
Condescend?

Despite this, I like it a lot.
Pieces from hulk - cards milled

ALL - 60
4 crab + 4 - 48
3 crab + 5 - 45

And you can always do this with a land in ahnd before playing one for the turn to net an extra 3xno. of crabs.

Ordering cards now i think!!!
Really??? Why would you want to play a ba combo deck?

Dan Barrett said:
Pieces from hulk - cards milled ALL - 60
4 crab + 4 - 48
3 crab + 5 - 45

And you can always do this with a land in ahnd before playing one for the turn to net an extra 3xno. of crabs.

Ordering cards now i think!!!
What's a good combo then Redshirt?

And don't say Dark Depths, i can't afford the cards for it.

Gary Lynch said:
Really??? Why would you want to play a ba combo deck?

Dan Barrett said:
Pieces from hulk - cards milled ALL - 60
4 crab + 4 - 48
3 crab + 5 - 45

And you can always do this with a land in ahnd before playing one for the turn to net an extra 3xno. of crabs.

Ordering cards now i think!!!
:( @ redshirt

Good combo?? Elves perhaps??

Dan Barrett said:
What's a good combo then Redshirt? And don't say Dark Depths, i can't afford the cards for it.

Gary Lynch said:
Really??? Why would you want to play a ba combo deck?

Dan Barrett said:
Pieces from hulk - cards milled ALL - 60
4 crab + 4 - 48
3 crab + 5 - 45

And you can always do this with a land in ahnd before playing one for the turn to net an extra 3xno. of crabs.

Ordering cards now i think!!!
if you can fit in some careful study effects then you should play Footsteps of the Goryo
There were two different sorts of lists for hulk last year- one using through the breach, and one using the graveyard to get hulk into play. I only looked at the breach list really (not for any good reason). I don't think that mixing them would work.

Philip Dickinson said:
if you can fit in some careful study effects then you should play Footsteps of the Goryo
Pretty sure Phil meant as an alternative method.
Updated version (with SSG, Desperate Ritual) is goldfishing about turn 4.5...
if you weren't playing TtB and Footsteps in your bubble hulk deck then you were playing a suboptimal list imo

Daniel Royde said:
There were two different sorts of lists for hulk last year- one using through the breach, and one using the graveyard to get hulk into play. I only looked at the breach list really (not for any good reason). I don't think that mixing them would work.

Philip Dickinson said:
if you can fit in some careful study effects then you should play Footsteps of the Goryo
Holy shit its hulkbreach again. Hmmmm ill come up with a list, but in the mean time here is a grapeshot combo list:
Lands: 18

2 Halimar Depths
4 Steam Vents
4 Scalding Tarn
4 Mountain
4 Island

Enchantments: 4

4 Pyromancer Ascension

Sorceries: 16

4 Serum Visions
4 Rite of Flame
4 Ponder
4 Grapeshot

Instants: 22

4 Remand
2 Muddle the Mixture
4 Manamorphose
4 Magma Jet
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Electrolyze



Swath is lame.

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