Extended combo deck idea (Halp pls?)

[Dan Barrett]

20 lands (tbc)
4 Dryad Arbor

4 Through the Breach
4 Protean Hulk
4 Hedron Crab
4 Sakura Tribe Elder
4 Seething Song
4 Remand
4 Vendilion Clique
4 Peer Through Depths
2 Summoner's Pact
2 Jace, the Mind Sculptor

sideboard (tbc)


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I've also been trying to build a Swath-Shot deck with no success (it goldfishes too slow at present), and was thinkign about Dragonstorm... Ideas there too?

[Daniel Royde]

Seems interesting- had thought that hulk didn't work anymore. Here's the list of cards I had in it last year that aren't in yours:

Gigadrowse
Eerie Procession
Ponder
Serum Visions
Chrome Mox
Pentad Prism
Pact of Negation

The clique and jace seem strange- I'd have thought it's better to be faster.
Other problems: Drawing 2 dryad arbors makes it hard to combo.
Condescend?

Despite this, I like it a lot.

[Dan Barrett]

Clique and Jace both allow you to put crabs back in your library, clique protects against countermagic somewhat, and Jace can also put back arbors. Clique also holds off a marit lage token/trades with a nacatl to buy a turn, jace can bounce such problems. Maybe other cards do these jobs better though? Could definitely change these up for desperate rituals/rite of flames to be quicker, or alternate protection/shuffler-back-in-ers.

Other cards you mention are also possibilities, for the sideboard at least.

Daniel Royde said:

Seems interesting- had thought that hulk didn't work anymore. Here's the list of cards I had in it last year that aren't in yours:
Gigadrowse Eerie Procession
Ponder
Serum Visions
Chrome Mox
Pentad Prism
Pact of Negation

The clique and jace seem strange- I'd have thought it's better to be faster.
Other problems: Drawing 2 dryad arbors makes it hard to combo.
Condescend?

Despite this, I like it a lot.

[Dan Barrett]

Pieces from hulk - cards milled

ALL - 60
4 crab + 4 - 48
3 crab + 5 - 45

And you can always do this with a land in ahnd before playing one for the turn to net an extra 3xno. of crabs.

Ordering cards now i think!!!

[Gary Lynch]

Really??? Why would you want to play a ba combo deck?

Dan Barrett said:

Pieces from hulk - cards milled ALL - 60
4 crab + 4 - 48
3 crab + 5 - 45

And you can always do this with a land in ahnd before playing one for the turn to net an extra 3xno. of crabs.

Ordering cards now i think!!!

[Dan Barrett]

What's a good combo then Redshirt?

And don't say Dark Depths, i can't afford the cards for it.

Gary Lynch said:

Really??? Why would you want to play a ba combo deck?

Dan Barrett said:

Pieces from hulk - cards milled ALL - 60
4 crab + 4 - 48
3 crab + 5 - 45

And you can always do this with a land in ahnd before playing one for the turn to net an extra 3xno. of crabs.

Ordering cards now i think!!!

[Gary Lynch]

:( @ redshirt

Good combo?? Elves perhaps??

Dan Barrett said:

What's a good combo then Redshirt? And don't say Dark Depths, i can't afford the cards for it.

Gary Lynch said:

Really??? Why would you want to play a ba combo deck?

Dan Barrett said:

Pieces from hulk - cards milled ALL - 60
4 crab + 4 - 48
3 crab + 5 - 45

And you can always do this with a land in ahnd before playing one for the turn to net an extra 3xno. of crabs.

Ordering cards now i think!!!

[Philip Dickinson]

if you can fit in some careful study effects then you should play Footsteps of the Goryo

[Daniel Royde]

There were two different sorts of lists for hulk last year- one using through the breach, and one using the graveyard to get hulk into play. I only looked at the breach list really (not for any good reason). I don't think that mixing them would work.

Philip Dickinson said:

if you can fit in some careful study effects then you should play Footsteps of the Goryo

[Dan Barrett]

Pretty sure Phil meant as an alternative method.

[Dan Barrett]

Updated version (with SSG, Desperate Ritual) is goldfishing about turn 4.5...

[Philip Dickinson]

if you weren't playing TtB and Footsteps in your bubble hulk deck then you were playing a suboptimal list imo

Daniel Royde said:

There were two different sorts of lists for hulk last year- one using through the breach, and one using the graveyard to get hulk into play. I only looked at the breach list really (not for any good reason). I don't think that mixing them would work.

Philip Dickinson said:

if you can fit in some careful study effects then you should play Footsteps of the Goryo

[Charlie Grover]

Holy shit its hulkbreach again. Hmmmm ill come up with a list, but in the mean time here is a grapeshot combo list:
Lands: 18

2 Halimar Depths
4 Steam Vents
4 Scalding Tarn
4 Mountain
4 Island

Enchantments: 4

4 Pyromancer Ascension

Sorceries: 16

4 Serum Visions
4 Rite of Flame
4 Ponder
4 Grapeshot

Instants: 22

4 Remand
2 Muddle the Mixture
4 Manamorphose
4 Magma Jet
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Electrolyze



Swath is lame.