Modern, and Overextended

[Thomas David Baker]

Great call to arms from Gavin Verhey:

http://www.starcitygames.com/php/news/article/21947.html

Sort of weirdly overshadowed or confusified by Wizards Community Cup format, "Modern":

 

http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/othe...

 

Anyone playing in any of the Overextended tournaments?  Jason or anyone else organizing something for July 2?

 

It might be because I haven't thought about it hard enough yet but these seem like really fun ideas.

[Dan Barrett]

Killing dredge completely in the case of Gavin's format is kinda lame.

I mean, neuter it so it doesn't totally wreck the format, fair enough, but removing an entire archetype (also the Cephalid breakfast combo) seems fairly mean. 

[Dave Robertshaw]

By taking it from Invasion block, he also nuetered Storm combo, looks like he is really trying to make the format as fair as possible, which I think is a mistake personally.

[Gary Lynch]

Is that because you have a dredge deck dan?

[Gary Lynch]

Actually Storm came around way after Invasion block and was played in standard and extended. Taking away broken free spells from the storm deck doesnt make it not viable, jut makes it not stupid.

Also as he said in his article he doesnt want it to be legacy-lite, he wants it to be a different format.

 

As long as Gifts is legal im happy :)

 

Dave Robertshaw said:

By taking it from Invasion block, he also nuetered Storm combo, looks like he is really trying to make the format as fair as possible, which I think is a mistake personally.

[Dan Barrett]

Anyone who owns a deck should be able to play it in some form in such a large format

Gary Lynch said:

Is that because you have a dredge deck dan?

[Gary Lynch]

Not really, im sure there are other legacy decks that dont transfer over. Stax for example.

Dan Barrett said:

Anyone who owns a deck should be able to play it in some form in such a large format

Gary Lynch said:

Is that because you have a dredge deck dan?

[Dan Barrett]

I meant decks for which the cards exist Invasion->

[Ben Titmarsh]

What dya reckon... time to snap up Rav shock lands while they're still a fiver for the speculators amongst us?

[Jason Savage]

Ben, that might not be a bad idea!

[Paul Hodgson]

Jason - any chance of a deal on a full set?

Jason Savage said:

Ben, that might not be a bad idea!

[Jason Savage]

Paul,
What would you be after? All of them?
Jason

[Charlie Grover]

Why? Dredge is a horrible deck to play with and against. The game 2s and 3s are sometimes interesting, but its an archetype that adds restrictions to how decks can work in a format (need to be able to devote 8+ slots to beating dredge post board or have some game 1 outs), which in turn allows other combo decks to suffer from less hate and become overpowered. Especially as Wizards is looking to push creature combat dredge looks like a bad choice.

 

Also, its a hard deck to just neuter rather than kill, but im sure it could be done.

Dan Barrett said:

Killing dredge completely in the case of Gavin's format is kinda lame.

I mean, neuter it so it doesn't totally wreck the format, fair enough, but removing an entire archetype (also the Cephalid breakfast combo) seems fairly mean.